
Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick
If you work in online fraud prevention, chances are you've caught the "bug". The bug that makes you passionate about identifying & preventing cybercriminals from getting away with stealing from your company, or your client's companies. Most people who have made cyber-fraud their career have the perfect balance of analytical and social skills, a strong sense of justice and the curiosity that will drive you to go down every path of information until you "crack the case".
Just like sociology is the study of social behavior, and psychology is the study of human behavior, Fraudology is the science and study of fraud.
On the Fraudology podcast, long-time online fraud expert, Karisse Hendrick will dive into all areas of Fraudology from the perspective of a fraud-fighter. With guests ranging from former cybercriminals to fraud-fighters at Fortune 500 companies to law enforcement and others, you will no doubt be entertained, while learning a lot about fraud & other forms of abuse prevention!
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Latest episodes

Nov 7, 2023 • 1h 3min
Holding Corporations Accountable For Fraud Through Whistleblower Laws w/ Jason T. Brown, Esq.
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick is joined by Jason T. Brown, a former FBI agent turned whistleblower attorney. They delve into the world of corporate fraud and the crucial role whistleblowers play in exposing wrongdoing. From discussing various whistleblower statutes to highlighting the incentives and protections available, Karisse and Jason reveal the significance of reporting misconduct and discuss real-world examples of corporate malpractice. Karisse was surprised to learn that a few common practices in tech are technically considered fraud.Tune in for an enlightening conversation on the power of whistleblowing in combatting fraud and maintaining the integrity of the system.To connect with Jason T. Brown on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-brown-8188702/To learn more about his law firm: www.ifightforyourrights.comFraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Nov 2, 2023 • 46min
Mobile Wallet Fraud: Up 125% Collectively Since Last Year! Plus Apple Pay Liability Shifts & Fraud Tactics
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this week's solo episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick dives into the world of mobile wallet fraud, discussing the rapid growth of Apple Pay, Google Pay, and Samsung Pay usage, and the Rapid YoY growth of fraud losses attributed to these wallets. Karisse provides a deep dive into some of the loopholes & methods on ApplePay, specifically that create opportunities for fraud to occur and explores the fraud liability assignments/shifts for merchants and banks depending on how the wallet is presented/processed, geography, and the card type used to fund the wallet. She also addresses the increasing costs of combating fraud and the impact of COVID-19 on the rise of contactless payments. She also highlights the importance of how fraud detection technology is used & applied, as well as the importance of anonymous surveys for accurate industry metrics to utilize as benchmarking opportunities when presenting internal metrics to leadership.Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 31, 2023 • 48min
Gil Rosenthal Answers Questions from Issuers/Banks/Fintechs about Payment Fraud & Professional Development
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick is again joined by recurring guest Gil Rosenthal, an expert in Credit & Risk Management for Fintechs, Banks, and Issuers. Karisse recently received a couple of great questions from Fraudology listeners in the financial services space, and asked the best person she knows in this side of fraud prevention & risk management to help her answer their questions. Question One: We’ve been getting slammed with CNP, Token, COF and general eCom fraud for the past year or so. We are having difficulties understanding what’s happening, since we only know what fraud looks like on our end!! We don’t understand what we’re looking at when we see the same merchant ID with multiple acquirer IDs. We don't know how to identify if a terminal is legitimate or a possible stolen terminal that’s been changed programmatically. We don’t know if we’re looking at legitimate monthly charges being runs seconds apart from each other, or if we’re looking at a dark web purchased list of cards being tested!! Do you know where an issuer could go to learn these things?Question Two: I’m in the financial services sector and would like to transition to a role in fraud and payments risk at a retailor or processor. Any advice?Listen to this episode to hear answers to these questions from guest Gil Rosenthal & host Karisse Hendrick. They'll discuss the significance of identifying any abnormal activity and spikes in transactions, the importance of understanding specific terminology in different industries, and the benefits of networking and connecting with others in the field. From career transitions to detecting potential issues, Gil & Karisse provide valuable advice and actionable tips for fraud prevention professionals.To connect with Gil Rosenthal or to inquire about his consulting services: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gil-rosenthal/Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 26, 2023 • 25min
Is it Fraud? Exploring the Thin Line Between Unusual Schemes and Traditional Fraud
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicThe word "fraud" is often used to describe identity theft, payment fraud, account takeovers, etc. In this solo episode of the Fraudology podcast, host Karisse Hendrick explores the concept of fraud through unconventional examples. She clarifies the potential harm of bots used to secure popular reservations, the impact of review fraud on companies, boarding scams exploiting Southwest Airlines' processes, and even delves into a humorous story about a man who faked over 20 heart attacks to get out of paying for expensive dinnersAre these cases of fraud? Or, just harmless, opportunistic schemes?Articles mentioned in this episode:https://viewfromthewing.com/the-dark-side-of-pre-boarding-how-scammers-get-the-best-seats-on-southwest-airlines/?https://www.insider.com/man-faked-heart-attacks-20-times-avoid-paying-bill-police-2023-10?Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 24, 2023 • 45min
Why I Fight Fraud: Host Karisse Hendrick Gets Personal
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick was inspired by previous guest of Fraudology, Andrew Austin to candidly share her own motivations for fighting fraud & how they adapted throughout her career journey. She discusses the challenges and frustrations faced in the industry, the importance of data analysis in driving results, the value of skepticism, and the need to constantly educate others about fraud prevention. Karisse also emphasizes the value of learning from others' experiences and highlights the unique bonds formed with fellow fraud fighters.She also dives into the discovery of her own purpose within the anti-fraud industry, of supporting the industry as a whole and facilitating collaboration among fraud-fighters. Tune in to gain insights from Karisse's personal reflections and the lessons she has learned along the way.Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 19, 2023 • 45min
Expect More Bots Online Soon...Courtesy of Shark Tank.
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicNever did Karisse Hendrick, host of Fraudology, expect to talk about a popular reality show where entrepreneurs pitch their companies to an investor on TV, and the investor decides if the product is something they would like to invest in with their own money; in relation to online fraud. But, thanks to a relatively new company that visited the "Shark Tank" on its most recent episode, Karisse thought this was a good time to provide a heads up to online companies in all verticals. On the episode that aired on the 13th of October, millions of viewers internationally watched the founders as they pitched their company, Bot-it to the investors. But more importantly, the founders of Bot-it claim to be the first B2C bot service with a simple to use user interface.So, Karisse thought this was a good reason to as a chance to delve into the world of purchasing bots, reselling businesses, and the challenges faced by cybersecurity teams in detecting and preventing bot activity. While also taking opportunity to warn Fraudology Listeners of the possible shift in legitimate user behavior, as well as a change in the motivations for the use of Bots, Karisse discusses:The first use of scripted programs/attacks (known as "bots")Why a company's cybersecurity team often manages the relationship with most traditional bot detection vendorsHow purchasing-bots ("sneaker bots") and log-in bots have had a real impact on fraud,, and implications of bot purchasesThe two main groups of users/core motivations of bot users (until now); and why more legitimate customers with no technically expertise may have gotten the impression that using bots online are legal & easy to useWhy the "Shark Tank Effect" on this company, Bot-it may impact online fraud departments (in ecommerce, fintech, and even banking)Why the usage of bots can often result in orders placed by bots being canceled due to company policies The importance of clear policies and communication to reduce additional volume of calls to customer service call.Predictions & advice for those who may suddenly be experiencing purchases or log ins made by bots making purchases or logging in, without typical behaviors that would indicate fraud or re-selling activity.With insider knowledge and expert advice, Karisse highlights the evolving landscape of fraud prevention and emphasizes the significance of building trust with end consumers. Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 17, 2023 • 1h
Observations of Fraud Across all Industries + Career Growth Tips w/ Sidharth Shah (@ Novo.co)
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick welcomes back Sidharth Shah, lead product manager of Onboarding and Identity at Novo, a B2B Financial Services Startup. Sid shared some of the ways he's challenged himself professionally in the last year, and what he's learned & accomplished from pushing himself out of his comfort zone. He & Karisse also shared some of their experiences and connections they've made within the Fraudology community and at industry events.From the importance of data-driven decision-making to the value of diverse perspectives, specifically as it relates to fraud; Karisse and Sid also offer practical tips and perspectives for anyone in fraud prevention and on creating opportunities in their career.To Connect with Sidharth (Sid): No Solicitations Please!https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidharth-shah/To listen to more of Sid's perspective:Episode 169: Building a fraud strategy for a complex business model w/ Matt Vega & Sid Shah Novo.coEpisode 170: Identifying Online Fraud Before it Happens w/ Matt Vega & Sid Shah @ Novo.coFraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 10, 2023 • 48min
The "Secret" Strategy to Help Execs & Oher Teams to Understand the Importance & Impact of Online Fraud w/ John Matas (ex-Etsy, ex-Macy's)
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicToo often, fraud-fighters feel undervalued, underappreciated, and misunderstood. When trying to communicate the importance & impact of the fraud team, and trying to convey a sense of urgency to leadership, there are often assumptions made that just aren't true. Or productive. On today's episode of Fraudology, join host Karisse Hendrick as she welcomes back John Matas, former Global Director of Risk & Fraud for Etsy and Corporate Principal for Fraud & Profit Protection at Macy's, a now currently the founder & principal consultant of BlackLight Security. While John considers himself a financial crimes investigator at heart, and an outspoken advocate for fraud prevention, when entering a room with execs or other stakeholders within an organization, he strategically doesn't lead with that. And today, he shares the importance of bridging the gap between fraud prevention and business objectives. Along with his reasons for translating the vast importance & influence the Fraud/Trust & Safety dept, why he started to form this strategy, and how helpful it has been in his career (plus, unexpected outcomes to this approach). From addressing the impact of account takeovers on customer lifetime value to navigating the challenges of false positives, John shares valuable insights and practical advice for building successful fraud prevention programs.To connect with John directly with questions, a connection request, and/or a new opportunity, send him a message on LinkedIn: Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 5, 2023 • 1h 5min
Unraveling the Exploits of Multifactor Authentication w/ Gil Rosenthal
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicIn this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick is joined by her friend and Financial Services Risk expert, Gil Rosenthal to discuss the vulnerabilities and challenges of multifactor authentication. They explore various methods of verification, such as One Time Passwords (OTPs) via SMS or email, authentication apps and magic links, and examine the importance of monitoring unauthorized use claims after MFA was successful for account access or account activity (withdrawals, large purchases, etc.).Gil & Karisse also delve into the indicators used to discover one of the five root causes of spikes in an MFA "attack". Such as, sudden changes in phone companies or a recently updated phone number or email address in an account, and they highlight the importance of analyzing the cause to identify a successful strategy to thwart more attempts. And, they also provide signs to identify when an unauthorized claim was made by the account holder ("1st party"/"friendly" fraud.They wrap up the conversation with a few examples of successful strategies (both technical & process-based updates) to implement to identify & "stop the mouse" in this never-ending Cat-and-Mouse "game"! Join the conversation as they shed light on the evolving tactics fraudsters are using to get around MFA, and the ongoing battle to safeguard user accounts.To connect with Gil Directly (to gain a great person to follow & learn from, learn about his consulting services, and/or his new venture in Financial Services data management & reporting, Choir): https://www.linkedin.com/in/gil-rosenthal/Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

Oct 3, 2023 • 36min
Viral Pop Culture Moments: The Ripple Effect on Online Fraud & Reselling
Fraudology is presented by Sardine. Get your tickets to Sardine[Con] and end the scamedmicViral pop culture moments often happen unexpectedly, and can have unpredictable side effects. Last week we were reminded of this when a pop star's attendance at an American football game prompted a popular athletic brand to sell out of the style of shoes she wore to the game. And, sales of the jersey with her suspected boyfriend's name & jersey number shot up over 400% sales from the week before. In this solo episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick explains what these pop culture moments have to do with Fraudology as she delves into the fascinating world of international reselling and its impact on online fraud. From the rise of cross-border shipping and payments to the influence of social media and viral trends, she explores how certain items can become lucrative when sold on secondary marketplaces and/or in different geographical regions.Karisse also shares stories and insights from her experience in fraud prevention, discussing the some of the (often unknown) challenges faced by retailers, and the importance of adapting systems to evolving customer behavior and trends. Tune in to discover how companies can navigate reselling, prevent fraud, and stay ahead of unexpected trends.Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.Mentioned in this episode:2023-q4-postroll sardine 1