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Apr 26, 2022 • 1h 18min
TCC Podcast #288: Creating Your Personal Board of Directors with Allison Carpio
Allison Carpio is our guest for the 288th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Allison is a copywriter, analytics specialist, and food aficionado who breaks down what it means to overcome the headtrash that is holding us back from creating and doing what we truly want. In this episode, you’ll find out the importance of staying in alignment with your values, plus…
Starting a freelance career while working a full time job.
The mindset blocks and headtrash that stands in the way of pricing.
The benefits of being in paid communities and high level masterminds.
How to leverage your network and build your authority.
Different support systems for your business – which ones do you need?
The 3 steps to identify what is holding you back and how to overcome it.
Building a “team” of supporters to work through perfectionism and fear of instability.
Accelerating success and making business more fun and energetic.
How Allison shifted the way she talks to her own audience and why that shift happened.
Shifting your beliefs while shifting your business – How’s it done?
How to build your email list with warm leads.
Where to look for your collaboration opportunities.
Crafting your welcome sequence like a private 1:1 dinner.
Shaping your VIP day – How can you get more done in one day?
The new challenges that entrepreneurs face as their business grows.
Hit that play button below, you're not going to want to miss it.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Think Tank
Copywriting Income Survey
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
Allison's website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Sign up for Typeform
Episode 234
Episode 258
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Apr 19, 2022 • 1h 11min
TCC Podcast #287: How to Manage Finances, Pay off Debt, and Invest for the Future with Keina Newell
Keina Newell is our guest on the 287th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Keina is a financial coach who helps professionals and solopreneurs with their money. With over $75,000 in student loan debt on a teacher’s salary, Keina knew she had to make a big change if she was ever going to achieve financial freedom. Whether you want to pay off debt, save and invest money, or a bit of all three, this episode will give you practical tips on doing just that.
Here’s how the conversation goes:
A career that is passion aligned but also helps you accomplish financial goals… real or myth?
What is the purpose of money in our lives?
How to backwards plan where you want to be financially.
The steps to getting granular with your financial goals.
Why you should pay yourself as an employee.
3 types of budgets and how to break them down.
When to start building a financial system.
An emergency fund for business vs personal.
Taking a leap vs safety first: which are you?
How to plan for expenses that come with being self employed.
Where should we be investing when we DO have money to invest?
How to create a money hell YES and a hell NO list.
Why this one thing will impact your investment style.
What about debt? Where does it fit into our financial plan?
How to reframe your mindset around debt and change the money stories we grew up with.
What it really means to charge less for your skills and how it will affect your future.
3 questions to ask yourself when deciding whether to cut down vs earn more.
How to decide where your financial gap is.
What to think about before hiring contractors.
Why you need to start dating your money.
Budgets – what’s that all about anyways?
How to actually reach your financial goals.
Financial tips for beginners – what are the first steps?
How to start up money conversations with business partners.
This episode is full of actionable steps to further our financial journeys, be sure to hit play or check out the transcript below.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Think Tank
Copywriting Income Survey
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
Keina's website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Sign up for Typeform
Episode 110
Full Transcript:
Kira: All right. Keina, let's kick this off with your story. How did you end up as a financial coach?
Keina: I, I think my, my go-to answer is that God has a sense of humor, uh, which has been the theme my entire life, but I ultimately got into financial coaching because I was really looking at what did I enjoy doing? And one of the things that I really enjoyed was budgeting, and in my own personal story, um, I graduated college and with a lot of student loan debt. And in addition to having student loan debt, I actually joined Teach for America, which anyone who knows anything about teachers teaching is not like the highest-paid position in the world. And at that time, I was making probably like $30,000 a year and trying to figure out how could I actually do something that felt very passion-aligned but also be able to work towards buying a home, saving money and paying down student loan debt. So it was like through my own personal journey of budgeting and figuring out how to buy a house, how to make more money. And that progress over, over a decade, got me into the financial coaching space.
Rob: So as you've been coaching Keina and working with people on their own finances, where do you see the biggest opportunities or the starting point where we need to be thinking more about our finances?
Keina: I would say really knowing the purpose of money in your life. I always encourage people to think about when you're 80 years old, like, what do you wanna have achieved? And I think sometimes people think it's like a silly question, but I don't think that we actually kind of press pause to think about why are we doin...

Apr 12, 2022 • 1h 16min
TCC Podcast #286: Loving What You Do, Changing Up your Business, and 60 Lessons for Life and Copy with Carline Anglade-Cole
Carline Anglade-Cole is our guest on the 286th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. While Carline has joined the show before, in this episode she gives us the inside scoop of creating a Youtube channel, writing her second book, and lessons we can all use in our lives and business.
Check it out:
Why Carline decided to channel her content on Youtube.
What it takes to get started on Youtube + how to use copy skills to grow your channel.
How a thumbnail is like a lead.
Why Carline is giving away free content vs paid content.
Carline’s Youtube strategy for maximum views.
How copywriting has radically changed her life and surprises along the way.
The process of shifting gears and getting out of your own way.
The difference between selling physical products vs digital products.
Why it’s a good idea to rechannel yourself to find things that excite you.
Carline’s inspiration for writing a second book about lessons, mindset, and advice.
How this ONE tip could change the way you view your copy.
The importance of finding a support system that encourages you – but what if it’s not your family?
The #1 mistake Carline sees copywriters making and how to fix it.
Kira and Rob’s favorite chapters of Carline’s book: Your Copy Sucks, You Don’t.
How Carline organized all her ideas to create her second book.
If you’re thinking of broadening your reach by writing a book or starting a Youtube channel, be sure to tune into the episode.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Think Tank
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
Carline's website
Carline's book
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Our first episode with Carline
Episode 65
Full Transcript:
Rob Marsh: Back when I worked a real job and I'm putting air quotes around “real”, I used to dread Mondays. In fact, when Sunday afternoon would come along, I'd start getting that feeling of dread in my gut and just really wasn't looking forward to work. And I think that's a pretty common thing among people who work regular nine to five jobs. Maybe you felt it yourself in fact. But since switching to copywriting and starting my own business, I can't recall ever feeling that Sunday dread. And I think that goes away when you truly love what you do. That's something that we share with our guest for today's podcast, Carline Anglade-Cole, and as you listen to what she shares, you'd probably agree that Carline is very obvious that she loves what she does. She's excited about writing, about teaching and about sharing the lessons that she's learned over her career as a copywriter. I get excited every time I talk to Carline. And I think that you're going to want to stick around to hear all the great advice that she shares in this episode.
Kira Hug: Before diving into the interview with Carline, the sponsor for this week's episode is the Copywriter Think Tank, which is our mastermind and coaching program that helps copywriters dive deeper and really explore ideas they didn't think were possible, and act on them. And we're really excited to introduce new coaches inside this mastermind experience. We've welcomed a mindset coach and a systems coach into the program so not only do you have our support and our feedback, but these other brilliant coaches in there as well. Linda Perry is the mindset coach and Jonnie Stellar is a systems coach.
And what I'm really excited about right now in the Think Tank is that we are planning our upcoming retreat in Washington, DC, this June. And there's nothing better than getting this mastermind together in person. We were just together in Nashville, Tennessee for TCCIRL for our retreat there. And I'm excited to host a party at my house in DC for the Think Tank members. So we're looking forward to that. And if you have any interest in being part of a mastermind, like the Think Tank, you can head over to copyrighterthinktank.

Apr 5, 2022 • 1h 22min
TCC Podcast #285: Building a Business that won’t Burn You Out with Tyler J. McCall
Tyler J. McCall guests on the 275th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Tyler is an Instagram Marketing Strategist and Coach for entrepreneurs who want to build and grow their business online. With social media being at the forefront of so many businesses, Tyler shares his experience dealing with burnout and how entrepreneurs can use social media more intentionally.
Take a peek at our conversation:
Why Tyler founded onlinebusinessowner.com.
How his nonprofit careers kickstarted his entrepreneurial endeavors and how he became the go-to Instagram marketing expert.
Should you leave the community you’ve become accustomed to?
How to find the right coach and community for you, your business, and your values.
The process of healing from a previous business and starting another.
Why it’s a good idea to unlearn old beliefs before jumping into something new.
How to deal with harassment online – actions and steps to take.
Repairing your reputation online – is it possible?
The double edged sword of social media.
How do you know if you’re burned out + how to fix it.
The future of social media and how to not lose yourself in it.
The potential of podcasting and the forgotten blog… is it still a thing?
A guide to unplugging from social media.
The reality of starting a media company and how to monetize when your offer is free.
The process of building your writer’s muscle.
How to regain trust in yourself and your gut feeling.
Building a small but mighty team for business growth.
If you want to use social media with intention and avoid burnout, tune into the episode.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Think Tank
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
Tyler's website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Episode 177
Episode 191
Full Transcript:
Rob Marsh: Social media. We've had a lot of people on the show to talk about their approach to Facebook and Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, LinkedIn. It's almost as if you can't build a copywriting business these days without spending serious time on social media. And while that may not be strictly true, you can, but it's becoming less and less common. Our guest for today's podcast is Tyler J. McCall. Tyler's gone through a bit of a transition when it comes to using social media for his business over the last few months. It used to be the main focus and now it's not. And if you struggle with social media as a business building tool, or you're interested in using it in a more sustainable way, you'll want to stick around for this interview. Tyler also shared how he's reinvented his entire business over the last year, how to deal with trolls and people that are harassing you online and overcoming burnout. Like we said, you're not going to want to miss this one.
Kira Hug: Before we dive into our interview with Tyler, the sponsor for this week's episode is the Copywriter Think Tank. It's our mastermind coaching program that helps copywriters dive deeper and explore ideas they didn't think were possible and act on them. We're introducing two new coaches inside the Think Tank who focus on systems and mindset, so members have the opportunity to ask for support from multiple coaches. If you are looking to create a new offer or program, product, scale your income, maybe launch a book, maybe launch a podcast, the Think Tank could be your next step to making it happen. If you want more information, head over to copywriterthinktank.com to learn more. All right, let's get into the interview and learn how Tyler ended up as the founder of onlinebusinessowner.com.
Tyler J. McCall: I'll give you the shortest version possible. I left my nonprofit career back in 2015 to start my own online business after having a bunch of side hustles before that. And the first business I started was a marketing agency with a really close friend. And that's where I really started learning abou...

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Mar 29, 2022 • 1h 8min
TCC Podcast #284: How to Use Dubsado to Streamline Your Business and Elevate Your Client Experience with Charlotte Issac
Charlotte Davis is our guest for the 284th episode of The Copywriter Club podcast. Charlotte is a Dubsado Strategist and Business Operations Consultant, and in this episode she breaks down the best way copywriters can use systems in their businesses to create a high-level client experience and maximize their time and energy.
Here’s how the episode goes down:
How Charlotte transitioned from OBM to Dubsado wizard.
The difference between OBM (Online Business Manager) and VA (Virtual Assistant), PLUS when you’re ready for each.
Are you ready for a Systems Strategist?
Why you need to pull your processes out of your head and into a system.
What can be automated in Dubsado?
The one thing business owners forget or feel awkward doing.
Honeybook vs. Dubsado – what’s the dif?
Should you set up your own Dubsado or hire an expert?
The process of hiring a professional in your business.
Best practices for client management while using automation – is it possible?
The 3 system standards service providers need to implement into their business ASAP.
How automation helps copywriters get out of their own way.
The 5 part process to making high-converting proposals.
Managing productivity and managing boundaries… Can the two coexist?
The method to a better discovery call.
How Charlotte manages her team and what she outsources in her business.
The mindset that comes with being afraid to do something.
Self care practices that keep Charlotte loving what she does and help her manage her energy.
The future of the online marketing space means no more cowboys.
How Harry Potter and business are the same.
If you need clarity around creating systems and processes, be sure to hit the play button or check out the transcript below.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Think Tank
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
Charlotte Isaac's website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Episode 44
Episode 207
Full Transcript:
Kira Hug: We've noticed a growing trend in the copywriting space. More and more copywriters are up-leveling their systems and creating automated client experiences that far surpass the somewhat sloppy back and forth that typically takes place in the inbox. Today's guest for The Copywriter Club podcast is system specialist, Charlotte Isaac, and she lets us look under the hood of her business. We nerd out on automations, Dubsado, and client management. So if you're trying to automate the processes in your business and maybe, just maybe you'd like to hear Charlotte's number one business lesson from Harry Potter, you won't want to miss this episode.
Rob Marsh: I'm feeling attacked Kira, based off that intro. I'm the guy with the sloppy back and forth in the inbox. If you're listening to this podcast on the day that it was released, that means that we are currently in Nashville at The Copywriter Club In Real Life, hanging out IRL with some of the best copywriters in the world. And we're sharing with them some of the changes that we're making to The Copywriter Think Tank here in the very near future to make it better than ever, like introducing two new coaches to the group. So that members don't just depend on us, but have access to specialists and things like systems and mindset.
The Think Tank is our mastermind coaching program that helps copywriters take their business to the next level, whatever that means for you, that might be a larger income number, it could be creating a new program or a new offer for your clients, it could be launching a podcast or writing a book to grow your authority, whatever you are ready to accomplish next, we'll help you do it in The Copywriter Think Tank. Go to copywriterthinktank.com to learn more. And let's get to our interview with Charlotte Isaac.
Kira Hug: All right Charlotte, let's kick this off. How did you end up as a business operations consultant?

Mar 22, 2022 • 1h 13min
TCC Podcast #283: Crafting a High-Converting Pitch and Closing Sales Calls with Angie Federico
Angie Federico joins The Copywriter Club Podcast for its 283rd episode. Angie is a direct response copywriter who’s been in both the freelance and agency world of marketing. Her ability to craft open-worthy pitches and close sales calls are just a few qualities that make her a great copywriter and marketer. If you need a pick-me-up when it comes to your skills in selling yourself, tune into the episode.
Here’s how the conversation goes:
How Angie went from selling life insurance to her start in affiliate marketing.
The difference between selling online vs in person.
How copywriting became the key to virtual selling.
Can you gain clients on Reddit?
The key to being great at sales and how to improve your own skills.
What even is affiliate marketing?
The beginnings of getting good at copywriting… for free.
Creating a referral system that sustains itself.
How to write a sales pitch that gets read and responded to.
Figuring out who you want to pitch and helping your prospect solve a problem.
The difference between the acquisition and retention side of a funnel.
Why you need to send bad pitches and get rejected.
How to pitch with intent.
Sales calls – how do you get your prospect to grab their credit card on the call?
The benefits of getting upfront payments from your potential clients.
The step by step breakdown of Angie’s sales call process.
How to set expectations right off the bat with new clients and community effectively.
Agency life vs freelance life. What’s it all about?
How to manage your energy and keep yourself balanced while working in an agency.
Kicking imposter syndrome and anxious feelings to the curb, so you can step into your confidence.
Hit the play button or read the transcript below.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Club In Real Life Event
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Connect with Angie
Episode 6
Episode 223
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Mar 15, 2022 • 1h 25min
TCC Podcast #282: Agency Life, Billion Dollar Clients, and The Future of Copywriting with Jason Pickar
Jason Pickar makes his second appearance on the 282nd episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Jason talks how the last few years have changed and his route to becoming a VP Creative Director. If you’re wondering what it would be like to work in an agency or need advice from a pro, be sure to check out the episode.
Here’s what we cover:
The changes in the agency space for both copywriters and creative directors.
What’s involved in being the creative director for an agency.
Teams that make-up an agency and the pace of working for one.
The process of getting copy written, edited, cleared, and ready to go live.
How to write for fans of a brand.
The difference between various generations’ style of writing and crafting copy based on different perspectives.
How quick service restaurants are pushing the app experience through a loyalty program and celeb advertisement.
The psychology that brings people back into the app.
The key to balancing brand voice and direct response language.
How to create a narrative of friendship in your writing style.
Jason’s biggest wins with Mcdonald’s rewards and the use of the app.
The best way to get the attention of a creative director and HR in an agency.
What makes a copywriter stand out on the team?
The benefits of working for and with an agency.
The future of copywriting – where is it headed?
Hit the play button or read the transcript below.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Club In Real Life Event
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Jason's LinkedIn
Episode 115
Episode 198
Episode 34
Connect with Jenn
Full Transcript:

Mar 8, 2022 • 57min
TCC Podcast #281: What We Believe with Kira Hug and Rob Marsh
Rob and Kira take the mic for the 281st episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. In this episode, they walk through what makes TCC… TCC. Through an introspection of beliefs and celebrating what the last 5 years have brought, they challenge everyone listening to do the same thing for their own business.
Take a sneak peek:
The core belief of The Copywriter Club.
No one owns a niche, specialty, or title and why this is a good thing.
How to use your x-factor to differentiate yourself from the sea of others in your niche.
The golden rule of investing and how to effectively use it in your business.
Paid mentors vs free mentors – is one better than the other?
How to keep the momentum moving in your business.
Outgrowing your title and shifting into a new one.
How to find the best way for YOU to grow your authority.
The importance of not comparing your goals to someone else’s.
How masterminds are like buffets – yes, the food kind.
The growth that comes with being the dumbest person in the room.
Do you have a sales problem or a marketing problem?
How you can do more good in the world and become a change agent.
Why it’s good practice to treat your business like an experiment.
How the red pen will increase your confidence.
The value of stretching yourself beyond your comfort zone.
How you can help TCC reach a million downloads.
Hit the play button below or check out the transcript.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Club In Real Life Event
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Full Transcript:
Rob Marsh: This week's episode of the podcast is going to be a little bit different. Every 10 episodes or so, Kira and I, we get together and we just share stuff that's not interview based and we've been wanting to do this for quite a while. So we're going to talk about some of the things that we believe. That we believe around copywriting and around the importance of the work that we do and maybe some of the ideas that hold together The Copywriter Club. Does that sound about right to you Kira?
Kira Hug: Yeah, like you said, this is something we haven't done before, so I'm not sure how this is going to turn out, but I'm excited to see what happens.
Rob Marsh: We could easily find out that we totally disagree on what we both believe.
Kira Hug: That's true.
Rob Marsh: Yeah so, it'll be interesting to see, because we have not really talked through this at all before hopping on to record, we just came up with our own lists and now let's share them. Before we share them though, we should say, like always, our podcast is sponsored by something and this week it is TCC IRL The Copywriter Club, In Real Life, it's happening in Nashville in just a couple of weeks, March 28th through the 30th and it is an awesome event. If you don't have a ticket, there are a few tickets left and you can come and join us.
Kira Hug: Yes. And can I share the new excitement with what we just decided?
Rob Marsh: This is good.
Kira Hug: So, we just decided that we want to help the refugees in Ukraine. And so we are going to find an organization that we both feel like is legit it and doing great work. And 10% of the profit from TCC IRL will go towards a specific organization, which is TBD, but we will figure it out soon. It feels like a good way to do something when it feels like there aren't many things we can do, this is one thing we can do. So we're excited to do that. If you do purchase a ticket, at least that part of that is going towards an organization that's doing great work in Ukraine and supporting people.
Rob Marsh: Yep. That's maybe a small way that we can make a difference for a lot of people that are being very significantly impacted by the war.
Kira Hug: Yes. So let's kick off with some of your beliefs. And again, these are TCC beliefs, but it's fun because Rob,

Mar 1, 2022 • 1h 18min
TCC Podcast #280: How to Create a Prelaunch Strategy and Set Boundaries with Ash Chow
For the 280th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, we’re joined by Launch Copywriter Ash Chow. Ash helps her clients strategize for pre-launch and breaks down why it’s such an essential part of your overall launch strategy. Tune into the episode to tap into your next launch strategy.
Tune into the conversation:
Having a “is this really my life?” moment and completely shifting gears.
How a quarterlife crisis can be a pivotal time in life.
The pull to do something greater and make a big impact.
The stigma around being a certain age before starting a business or pivoting your career.
Navigating feelings of low self worth and shame.
How copywriters are constantly scrutinized and how to not internalize feedback from clients.
Why validation can be an important part of working through difficult situations.
How to respect your boundaries when you’re a people pleaser.
Using the comments by that mean girl in high school or an unencouraging teacher to ignite your creativity.
Why you need to train your clients on how to communicate with you – you have to lead by example.
How to write more empathetic copy even if you’re not going through the same situations. (Lean heavily on your VOC research)
The shifts and pivots Ash has made in her career as a copywriter.
How Ash has built her authority and visibility by leaning into pre-launch strategy.
Ash’s framework to power up your pre-launch.
How to address objections as part of your pre-launch strategy.
Mistakes to avoid in your pre-launch strategy and what to do instead.
How Ash helped with the Accelerator pre-launch.
How to create your own stage to speak on.
If you’ve been wondering how you can power up your launches with a pre-launch strategy, listen to the episode or check out the transcription below.
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Club In Real Life Event
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Connect with Ash
Episode 67
Episode 143
Full Transcript:
Rob Marsh: We've interviewed several recovering attorneys on this podcast. All of them got through law school only to realize that the law wouldn't be the fulfilling career that they once thought it would be. And the pull towards creativity and writing is just too strong for these folks. So they answered the call to be a copywriter. Our guest, for this episode of the Copywriter Club podcast is another recovering attorney and think tank member, Ash Chow. Since graduating from law school, she's thrown herself into writing everything from fanfiction to launch copy. And today she's known as the expert in pre-launch copy and strategy. All of the stuff that you need to do before a launch to make sure that it's a success. She knows so much about this, that we focused most of our discussion on the topic of prelaunch strategy.
Kira Hug: Before we dive into our conversation with Ash, this episode is sponsored by the Copywriter Club in Real Life. So that's her are in person event happening March 28th through 30th in Nashville, Tennessee. The room is filling up and it can only hold a certain number of people because it's a boutique hotel. So there are spots left if you want to join us. I am very excited to hang out with people in real life again, since it's been two. And I just, I miss it. I miss people.
Rob Marsh: We haven't even seen each other in two years.
Kira Hug: That's true. This is the first time Rob and I... I feel like I see you all the time, but you're right. We haven't touched each other.
Rob Marsh: Not that we do a whole lot of touching.
Kira Hug: We haven't hugged each other and just like high fived and all those more appropriate things. We haven't done that in two years. And so this is going to be so much fun. We have incredible speakers now that we've nearly finished the lineup speakers like Mike Kim, Raven Douglas, Brigitte Lyons, Ash Chow,

Feb 22, 2022 • 55min
TCC Podcast #279: How to Face Burnout and Being in the Right Room with Jude Charles, Ash Chow, and Justin Blackman
For the 279th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, we’ve got not one… but 4 guests jumping on the show. You’ll hear the familiar voices of Jude Charles, Justin Blackman, and Ash Chow as they chat about their experiences with both TCCIRL and (N)IRL. Thinking about joining the party?
Here’s what it’s all about:
The first impression of TCCIRL – are copywriters really weird?
The experiences you can expect to have at your first or even second and third IRL event.
Are A-listers real people?
The importance of being able to build relationships outside of your computer screen.
Being introverted and going to a social event… how does it work?
First look at topics you’ll be tuning into at this year’s event.
How to leverage TCCIRL in your life and business once the event is over.
Dealing with burnout at different levels and how to maneuver it.
How much can happen in a short period of time and not forgetting to sit in moments of accomplishment.
Which guest nailed 57 podcasts because of TCCIRL?
How TCCIRL gives you a boost of energy when you need it – even after it’s over.
Can you be in the right and wrong room at the same time?
Embracing our awkward quirks and being confident in our empathy.
Where do you want to be in a year from now?
How has the copywriting and marketing landscape changed over the last year?
Why is 2022 the best time to be a small business owner in this space?
The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:
The Copywriter Club In Real Life Event
Kira’s website
Rob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground
Episode 216 with Justin Blackman
Episode 217 with Jude Charles
Connect with Ash
Connect with Justin
Connect with Jude
Full Transcript:
Kira Hug: The Copywriter Club in Real Life is coming up fast, in only five weeks. And in today's episode, our guests include this year's presenters and think tank members, Ash Chow and Justin Blackman and returning repeat presenter, Jude Charles. Rob is out of town this week, so my co-host today is one of our team members from The Copywriter Club, Rosie Bynum, our client relationship and event manager. Rosie, thanks for joining me as a co-host today.
Rosie Bynum: Thank you. I'm excited to be here and I'm excited to talk about the next event coming up, our big one for the year, TCCIRL, that is The Copywriter Club in Real Life. TCCIRL is taking over the in-person stage this year in Nashville, Tennessee, March 28 through 30th. And that is coming up pretty quickly. It is a two-and-a-half-day event where you'll hear from other copywriters and marketers about the best tools and strategies you can use to grow your business, skills, and mindset. Getting connected with some of the best minds in the space is the cherry on top. Space is limited, so be sure to grab your ticket as soon as possible. If you'd like more information, head over to thecopywriterclub.com/tccirl-2022. We'll link it in the show notes as well.
Kira Hug: And space is really limited as in we only have a certain number of tickets left because the venue can only hold 200 people. And so, when we say that we actually mean it, is not just marketing speak. So get your tickets if you do want to be there, we want to make sure you have a seat. And now let's jump into the conversation with Jude, Ash, and Justin.
All right, today, we're going to kick this off with a very special episode with some special guests. Today we're going to talk about TCCIRL and also the way that the copywriting and marketing landscape has changed over the last few years. And so, I want to kick this off with my co-host and then we're going to go around the room and everyone will get a chance to introduce yourselves. So, Rosie, why don't you kick it off as my co-host today? Because we kicked Rob Marsh out, you are going to co-host. Why don't you introduce yourself?
Rosie Bynum: Hi, everybody. Yes, my name is Rosie.


