The Other 22 Hours

Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss
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May 22, 2024 • 49min

The Secret Sisters on leveling out, non-linear trajectories, and play.

The Secret Sisters are a Grammy-nominated (sister) duo from Alabama who have put out 5 records, and navigated a rollercoaster of highs and lows from being signed to Universal records and produced by T Bone Burnett, getting dropped, to lawsuits with a manager, bankruptcy, opening for (and being produced by) Brandi Carlisle, and onto a Grammy nomination. We talk about that ride, the lessons learned and experience earned, motherhood, doing the hard internal work and how that improves your creativity, putting the play back in music, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:The Secret SistersRay LamontagneGregory Alan IsakovEp  57 - The Brother BrothersEp 4 - Emily Scott RobinsonYuval Noah Harari"Sapiens"Ep  50 - Sierra HullEp  46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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May 15, 2024 • 49min

The Brother Brothers on authenticity, autonomy and validation, and traveling.

The Brother Brothers are identical twins who have released 5 records together, as well as touring/collaborating with Courtney Marie Andrews, Lake Street Dive, Big Thief, Sarah Jarosz, Keb Mo and being part of the early incarnations of Hadestown the musical. We chat with them about how authenticity lasts in this industry, the theory that everyone (musician/artist) just needs autonomy and validation, following the momentum, economics, and we share some good old tour horror stories.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:The Brother BrothersAmericanaFestAnais MitchellHadestownEp  10 - Joe PugEp 12 - Leyla McCallaStephane GrappelliTaylor SwiftZach BryanLevi TurnerClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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May 8, 2024 • 1h 4min

Guster on running toward fear, trying to fail, and green lights.

Guster formed in 1991, and has since released 9 records, had a Top 40 hit, a gold record, played Woodstock 99, started the label Ocho Mule, and is still growing today. We sat down with lead singer Ryan Miller, who is also a film composer, sometimes writer for The Atlantic, budding Broadway composer/writer and a former host on Vermont Public TV. We talk with Ryan about managing so many spinning plates, running towards fear, parallels between a music career and entrepreneurship (iterating, failing, learning, improving, and then repeating), managing personalities and wants over a 33-year career, and so much more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:GusterRyan Miller"Making Friends with Ryan Miller" - Vermont TV"Bardo" - Vermont TVReverb (non-profit)Ryan's Atlantic ArticleJoe PisapiaEp 45 - Glen PhillipsPJ Vogt - Molly RingwaldNicole AtkinsEp 38 - John DoeMike GordonNoah KahanGrace PotterBonny Light HorsemanClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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May 1, 2024 • 46min

Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the voiceless, and making the appointment.

Rissi Palmer signed her first record deal at 19, with her debut in 2007 she was the first black woman to make the country music charts in over 2 decades, she has toured with the likes of Taylor Swift, and the Eagles, appeared on Oprah, Good Morning America, at the White House, the Grand Ole Opry, and Lincoln Center, is the host of Apple Music's 'Color Me Country', and the director of the Color Me Country Artist Grant Fund. We talk about one of our favorite topics - saying no, prioritizing self care, speaking for those people who cannot speak for themselves, the music business as a meritocracy (ahem) and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Rissi Palmer'Color Me Country' - Apple MusicColor Me Country Artist Grant FundTami NeilsonDorothy DandrigeEp 43 - Gretchen PetersClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Apr 24, 2024 • 41min

Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation practice, and skateboarding.

Ana Egge - who Lucinda Williams calls 'the folk music Nina Simone' - has released 13+ records, starting with her first in 1994, and including some produced by Steve Earle, is a luthier, and has toured with John Prine, Shawn Colvin, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Ron Sexmith, Lucinda, and Iris Dement amongst others. In one of our more intriguingly esoteric conversations, we talk a lot about meditation practice and how that influences your creativity and approach to your career as a whole, as well as how Ana stumbled across her incredible practice of co-writing with her own dreams!Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Ana EggeDave SangerAsleep at the WheelEsther PerelGeorge StraitFolk AllianceWestern State CenterEric WardSwedenborgEp 44 - Laura VeirsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Apr 17, 2024 • 51min

Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams on finding the joy, balance, and the Tao of Levon.

Larry Campbell and Teresa Williams have released 4 albums as a duo, and were members of Levon Helm's band for over a decade, but the married couple also have a long musical history prior to becoming a formal duo. In addition to producing Levon's later career Grammy-winning records, Larry has played with Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, Judy Collins, Willie Nelson, Shania Twain, and Tracy Chapman, to name a few. We have a great conversation about being in it for the joy of getting to make music, balancing being members of large-scale tours (including a great story of them on the road with Jackson Browne), prioritizing self care vs being a workaholic, and the Tao of Levon.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Larry Campbell & Teresa WilliamsFelix McTeigueRoger FriedmanTony LeoneBob DylanJackson BrowneFurther"Ain't In It For My Health" docNonesuch RecordsSinead O'Connor/Shane McGowan TributeHardly Strictly Bluegrass FestivalClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Apr 10, 2024 • 49min

Morgxn on when not to quit, transparency, and farming.

Morgxn is an indie-pop artist born and raised in Nashville who has had songs on the top 10 Billboard alternative charts, that Billie Eilish has personally named as inspiration, he has songs featuring Sara Bareilles, and has performed at Lollapalooza, Bumbershoot, on Jimmy Kimmel and more. We talk with Morgxn about the struggles of being in an industry that do a whole lot to actively support artists, the work it can take to break through imposter syndrome and identify as an artist, when not to quit, having enough seats at the table for everyone, farming, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:MorgxnWhat Is Vital ProjectJames BlakeWet LegFlight of the ConcordsTiesto Marshall AltmanEp  23 - Adia Victoria"Real Artist's Don't Starve"Dan WilsonSara BareillesVance PowellClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Apr 3, 2024 • 1h 18min

Steve Poltz on life as a treasure hunt, creating your own scene, and getting pinned on the mat.

Over the last 30+ years Steve Poltz has released more than 14 records both solo and with his 90's band The Rugburns, on his own label as well as Mercury Records, as well as a longtime collaboration with Jewell including co-writing her hit "You Were Meant for Me." We talk with Steve about everything from having a stroke on stage, mid-song (and continuing to sing the song), all the way to viewing life as a treasure hunt, slaying the dragons, his infectious positivity and optimism, and getting pinned to the mat.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Steve PoltzThe Rugburns30A Songwriter FestivalCayamoGrateful Dead - "American Beauty"Grateful Dead - "Workingman's Dead"The ReplacementsJewellWillie RandolphDan BernRocky Mountain Folks FestEp 28 - The Wood BrothersAJ CroceAndy FrascoChris GelbudaThe Buddy & Jim ShowClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Mar 27, 2024 • 58min

Sierra Hull on nature vs nurture, disappointment as fuel, and tour bus cafes.

Sierra Hull is the definition of child prodigy - she made her Grand Ole Opry debut at 10, played Carnegie Hall at 12, and signed her first record deal at 13. She has since gone on to become the first woman to win IBMA Mandolinist of the year (3x in a row), be nominated for a Grammy, perform with Garth Brooks, Indigo Girls, and Allison Krauss and Gillian Welch, and perform at the White House. We chat with Sierra about growing up learning on stage with people 3x her age, the contrast of then studying at Berklee on a full scholarship, to using disappointments as fuel, the power of seeing women represented on album covers and in the press, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Sierra HullEp 21 - Alice GerrardMichael DavesBerklee College of MusicMark RadabaughBela FleckAllison KraussCharlie WorshamRenaissance - Beyonce docChris ThileAllison BrownRhonda VincentClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.
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Mar 20, 2024 • 48min

Langhorne Slim on getting out of the mind and into the heart, vices as a muse, and mountain tops.

Langhorne Slim has released 10 records over the last 20 years on a handful of labels (currently Dualtone Records), played festivals ranging from Newport Folk to Lollapalooza, late night shows from Letterman to Conan, and has had his music used in many many television shows and commercials. We go deep and vulnerable pretty quickly on everything from addiction/sobriety, the relentless inner monologue, mountain top envy, his new-found parenthood, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Langhorne SlimEp 42 - Robert EllisPatty GriffinJeff RatnerEp 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

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