The Other 22 Hours

Glen Phillips, lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket as well as a solo artist, has released 7 records with the band - 2 of which are multiplatinum - and 7 solo albums, spanning a career that started 37 years ago when Glen was just 15 years old. We talk about creating, and navigating the industry as both an active platinum-selling band, after the break-up, and now as the band has reformed, focusing and prioritizing the sheer joy of creating, how community can inspire and inform your creativity, and more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Glen PhillipsToad the Wet SprocketLargoMichael FlatleyBaryshnikovMatt the ElectricianBob Schneider"Fear"Trevor HornDavid Sylvian"Dulcinea"Chuck Plotkin"Coil"Ep  38 - John DoeGarrison StarrDavid MeadRuby Amanfu"Real Artists Don't Starve" - Jeff GoinsEp 3 - Milk Carton KidsWatkins Family HourClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Laura Veirs is a prolific singer-songwriter with over 14 albums released on her own label as well as Nonesuch Records and Bella Union, is a member of case/lang/veirs (w/ Niko Case & kd lang) and is a painter, (brief) podcast host, and author of a children's book on Elizabeth Cotton. We talk about staying aware of the beauty and joy that surrounds you, planning (and taking) a sabbatical year as a self-employed creative, ceding control of your social media accounts, stage fright, running your own international label, maintaining ownership of your rights, being a tortoise surrounded by hares, and much more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Laura Veirscase/lang/veirsCarl BlauThe Ryman"July Flame"case/lang/veirs - "Best Kept Secret"Tim YoungBella UnionNonesuch RecordsEp 27 - Mary GauthierClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Gretchen Peters is a Grammy-nominated, CMA Song of the Year winning member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who had an extensive touring, has released 14 albums (mostly on her own label), and had songs recorded by the likes of Etta James, Martina McBride, George Strait, Patty Loveless, Shania Twain, Neil Diamond, Trisha Yearwood, and Bryan Adams, just to name a few. This episode jumps right in with Gretchen's decision, and the public (and private) reactions, to retire from touring, and we go on to talk about the powerful effects of recalibrating your definition of success, bucking industry expectations in the name of your creativity and artistry, the strength of artists, and so much more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Gretchen PetersMartina McBride - "Independence Day"Farm AidPatty Loveless - "You Don't Even Know Who I Am"Rosanne CashJeff BlackEp 39 - Joe HenryEp  16 - Rodney CrowellRodney Crowell Song CampClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Robert Ellis is a singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist who has put out 6 albums both self-released and on New West Records, and having worked on records by Jamestown Revival, White Denim, Khruangbin, Nicole Atkins and others. We chat about the many benefits of mindfulness and being in the present moment, using adversity and tough times to return to having fun creating, parenting and perceptions, sobriety, and just saying f*ck it let's try something new!Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Robert EllisNiles City SoundSam HarrisLoch KellyRabbi Hillel (Hillel the Elder)Ep 10 - Joe Pug"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" - Robert M. PersigSheryl Crow doc"Effortless Mastery" - Kenny WernerCognitive Behavioral TheoryTara BrachEp 12 - Leyla McCallaClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Samantha Crain has released 8 records, started touring at 19, eventually supporting artists such as The Avett Brothers, Neutral Milk Hotel, Brandi Carlile, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Gregory Alan Isakov, The Mountain Goats, and MANY others, as well as joining First Aid Kit for an appearance on 'Conan', and self-producing many of her own records, as well as records for other artists. We explore the power of asking questions, both as a way to learn more in craft and business and as a means of self-advocacy in business dealings, we talk about the positives and negatives of growing a substantial career in a non-music town (Norman, OK in her instance), the many benefits of a meditation practice, and much more in this wide-ranging conversation.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Samantha CrainJohanna SamuelsEp 22 - Caroline Spence, Erin Rae, Kelsey Waldon, Michaela AnneLucy RoseEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Ep 11 - LuciusJon BatisteLori McKennaRamseur RecordsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

John Craigie is a singer-songwriter based out of Portland OR but who spent years living on the road, has released 12+ albums, and toured with the likes of Jack Johnson, Gregory Alan Isakov, Shawn Colvin, Sean Hayes and more. Craigie is known for his engaging live show that weaves a hefty dose of storytelling - in the vein of Arlo Gutherie - as well as comedy between his songs, so we send a lot of time talking about the art of storytelling and it's place in a concert, comedy, how he sustains such an intense tour schedule, drawing inspiration from communities of other artists such as painters and architects, debunking the optics fallacy and how finding the right venue for your show is much more powerful. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:John CraigieMaya DeVitryArlo GuthrieSeinfeldGeorge CarlinLewis BlackDane CookTodd SnyderLoudon WainwrightEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsFrank Lloyd WrightThe LouvreClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Joe Henry is a songwriter, producer, and writer who has released over 15 solo records on labels such as A&M and Anti-, and has produced records for a long list of artists such as Bonnie Raitt, Elvis Costello, Solomon Burke, Allen Toussaint, Rodney Crowell, Aimee Mann, Ani Difranco, Teddy Thompson, John Doe, and more. We have a diverse conversation about keeping yourself in the creative stream, knowing when to step away, acceptance, and much surrounding the Tom Waits quote, "How you do anything is how you do everything."Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Joe HenryNonesuch RecordsThe Bright MississippiAllen ToussaintVillage VanguardT Bone BurnettEp 16 - Rodney CrowellRodney Crowell Songwriting CampRandy NewmanFlannery O'ConnorEudora WeltyNathaniel WestExperience Music ProjectMeshell NdegeocelloMose AllisonMike ReidJoe Henry - ScarClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

John Doe is the co-founder and longtime member of the legendary LA punk band X, he's released numerous solo records, he stars in the recently released film DOA, as well as movies such as Boogie Nights, Roadhouse, Great Balls of Fire, and Brokedown Palace and TV shows such as Roswell, One Tree Hill and Law & Order, and is co-author of the book 'Under the Big Black Sun' with Tom DeSavia, chronicling the LA punk scene. Needless to say we talk about sustaining and foster a diverse set of creative endeavors, identifying ones own ego to make for smoother relationships,  embracing your role as a creator and sticking to it, the creative pitfalls of major label deals, longevity, and quite a bit more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:John DoeXDOA (film)'Under The Big Black Sun'Exene CervenkaThe Whisky a Go GoThe StarwoodDave AlvinRoswellXponential FestFugaziAdam AntSlash RecordsThe BagsThe Go-GosClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

David Wax Museum is a critically-acclaimed indie folk band lead by husband/wife duo David Wax and Suz Slezak, who have been praised by NPR, Tiny Desk, the New York Times, Newport Folk, and even had a song featured at Pete Buttigieg's wedding. We talk about how they built and have grown a strong, enduring, grassroots community around their music that helps them remain independent, how and what they've learned about both creating and recharging together and separately as a couple, positive discoveries of the pandemic times that have reshaped their career, mental health and it's impact on their schedules, and creating entire artistic ecosystems. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:David Wax MuseumSuz SlezakSuz's SubstackEp 28 - The Wood BrothersThe WoesClub PassimPatreonEp 30 - Duquette JohnstonEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsSubstackClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Madame Gandhi is an incredibly diverse guest: she is an award winning producer, composer, and drummer for M.I.A., a member of Forbes' 30 Under 30, has given several TED talks, has an MBA from Harvard and a Masters in Music Science & Tech from Stanford, and famously ran the 2015 London Marathon while menstruating freely to combat menstrual stigma. We talk about how she tackles both self doubt and imposter syndrome in her many creative endeavors, her concept of optimizing for joy in our passions to foster sustainability, post-show rituals, and so much more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Madame GandhiOrganic Nature Sounds Sample PackTedX TalkM.I.A.Elevate ConferenceClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.