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Apr 19, 2023 • 49min

Freedom to Think with Susie Alegre

This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to human rights barrister Dr Susie Alegre. Susie is a legal pioneer in digital human rights, in particular the impact of artificial intelligence on the human rights of freedom of thought and opinion. Without a moment’s pause, many of us will share our most intimate thoughts with the largest tech companies and in doing so make it possible for them to categorise us and potentially jump to troubling conclusions about who we are. In her new book Susie argues that only by recasting our human rights for the digital age can we safeguard our futures.‘Freedom to Think: The Long Struggle to Liberate our Minds” (Susie Alegre, 2022) 0.00 Introduction3.18 Can you tell us about your career and what’s led you to your current focus?5.20 You argue that the online environment undermines our independence of opinion and in your book you illustrate this by starting with a brief history of legal freedoms to both holding beliefs and their expressions. 9.44 I’d like to focus on this manipulation. It’s hard to keep up with what’s happening in terms of the speed and number of platforms that are spreading ideas. How do we balance the fact that this is happening with the rights to form our own thoughts?14.18 This whole area must be incredibly challenging. Can you give us a sense of what you face in trying to move legislation around like this?18.10 How do you feel about your own experience of being manipulated on-line?19.47 Can we turn to AI and how technology is now thinking that it can infer what our inner thoughts and feelings are? 24.01 What are thoughts on big tech company’s approach to ethics?26.06 How do you think organisations in the tech space are going to give the application of human rights more teeth?30.05 What are your thoughts on how the Chinese and Russian governments are wielding influence over their populations?33.55 If we take the GDPR digital services act as an example, we can see that it’s a tricky balancing act to introduce legislation to achieve those goals and engage the public and commercial sectors. Can we do a better job in capturing the public’s imagination in these things?37.34 What are the implications for leaders and organisations as they increasingly become dependent on digital and social technologies to prosper?40.10 What reaction have you had across the political spectrum to your ideas?42.14 You talk about how nobody wants to be manipulated and nobody thinks that are being manipulated. How do people get more honest and take more inventory in the ways that perhaps they are being manipulated?45.41 So thinking about the freedom to think for younger people, what advice might you give them?47.34 What are the next set of challenges for you? What are you working on at the moment?Social: Instagram           @evolvingleader LinkedIn             The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter               @Evolving_Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Apr 12, 2023 • 56min

Break the Rules with John Mullins

This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to John Mullins. John is Associate Professor of Management Practice in Marketing and Entrepreneurship at London Business School, has written four books and has had more than 50 articles appear in publications that include Harvard Business Review, The Wall Street Journal to name but a few. John’s latest book ‘Break the Rules! The Six Counter-Conventional Mindsets of Entrepreneurs that Can Help Anyone Change the World’ was published in January 2023.0.00 Introduction2.48 Can we start by getting to know you a little?3.54 Tell us about your entrepreneurial ventures.7.46 How does your body of work apply to everyone (not just entrepreneurs in start ups)?11.30 What advice would you give to a young entrepreneur to help them avoid early failure?13.41 If you could go back to your 25 year old self where you were a young entrepreneur, what would you say?15.15 Entrepreneurs can often be very defensive about their product and their idea. What have you learnt about the ability to hear differing perspectives?17.01 Moving to your latest book, can you give us the pitch and why you wrote it?21.40 So let’s talk through those mindsets. Let’s start with ‘Yes you can’ and how does this change conventional thinking?23.43 Next you have Problem First not Product First logic. What have you learnt about those who succeed in this respect think and act differently?28.40 The next of the six mindsets is Think Narrowly not Broadly. That’s pretty counter intuitive, so tell us more about that.30.55 The fourth mindset is ‘ask for the cash, ride the float’. Tell us about that.35.03 Have you had any experience with your clients adopting that principle in an otherwise conservative environment?36.53 The fifth mindset is Beg, borrow but don’t steal. Tell us about why this is important.42.26 And finally there is Instead of Asking for Permission, Beg for Forgiveness. What convention is this breaking?45.05 How have you seen that principle handled well in a corporate environment?48.26 You conclude the book by saying that not every entrepreneur displays these mindsets, but Lynda Weinman (the founder of Lynda.com) seems exceptional as she seems to display many (if not all). Can you tell us a little about her story? Social:Instagram           @evolvingleaderLinkedIn             The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter               @Evolving_LeaderYouTube           @evolvingleader2271 The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Apr 5, 2023 • 54min

Making TIME for Strategy with Richard Medcalf

This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Richard Medcalf. Richard is the founder and CEO of Xquadrant, a consultancy that he set up in 2017 with a mission to help top leaders reinvent their success formula and multiply the impact that they have on their purpose, people and their profit. Richard also runs Rivendell, an international peer community of entrepreneurs and CEOs. His book ‘Making TIME for Strategy’ was published in November 2022.BONUS RESOURCES0.00 Introduction4.27 Can you start by telling us how you’ve come to be who you are?6.42 Who is your book aimed at and what is the problem you’re solving for?8.40 In your book you talk about how you see rising demand, constant overload and seemingly no hope except possibly more of the same. Can you give us a sense of what you are seeing in this regard and how have those demands have changed over recent years?12.20 You talk about the power of strategic time as being the number one predictor of success as a leader, but the reality of immediate demands means that for many leaders this is out of their grasp. How do can they rethink this?16.38 Could you walk us through your solutions and specifically the TIME acronym that you use and how that works?21.28 In your experience working with leaders, how challenging is it for them to be honest about the time wasters vs the things that really add value? 23.26 So, the tactical move doesn’t operate in isolation for the leader. Does it solve the problem or do they need to be thinking wider than this?25.23 Can you give us an example of a particularly challenging type of conversation that leaders need to have that they may be avoiding or finding difficult to have?28.08 From your perspective what are the specific mindset blocks that are of particular importance when making this work?32.50 When you talk to leaders about having to shift their mindset, the block is often a feeling of helplessness or powerlessness. How do you help people cope with what’s going on inside them to deal with that shift in their thinking?34.58 Turning to the final part of the acronym, what’s the environmental challenge? 36.20 You point out that incremental progress is no way to beat infinity. Can you talk about the bold moves necessary to make real impact?43.03 We’ve been talking about this from an individual perspective, but how does a team facing these challenges incorporate these?  47.20 Richard, I want you to inspire us. What can I do when I get some time to myself to start my journey along some of these ideas, and I’d like us to think about someone at the start of their career as well as the more mature leaders? The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Mar 29, 2023 • 43min

The Invention of Tomorrow with Adam Bulley

This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Adam Bulley. Adam is a postdoctoral fellow at the Brain and Mind Centre and School of Psychology, The University of Sydney, and the Department of Psychology at Harvard University. In his research, Adam uses the tools of cognitive science to study the mind and human behaviour, with a focus on the evolution, development, and psychological mechanisms of imagination, foresight, decision-making, and emotion.  Adam Bulley’s first book ‘The Invention of Tomorrow’ which he co-wrote with Thomas Suddendorf and Jon Redshaw was published in 2022.During the conversation, Adam also references the following books:The Optimist's Telescope: Thinking Ahead in a Reckless Age (Bina Venkataraman, Riverhead 2020)The Long View: Why We Need to Transform How the World Sees Time (Richard Fisher, Wildfire 2023) 0.00 Introduction2.58 Can you start by telling us about yourself and what led you into your research and career?4.21 Let’s dive into your book ‘The Invention of Tomorrow. Can you give us your pitch for the book, who is this book for and what will your audience gain from reading it?6.02 We take our ability to think about the future for granted, but how and why do you think this remarkable capability evolved? 8.56 What would have happened to our species had we not evolved this human foresight capability? 10.33 What role does memory play in foresight?13.27 So let’s skip back to how foresight and innovation are intwined with one another. Can you bring to light some of the research and how you’ve come to understand how that relationship works?15.32 What have you learned about how this ability impacts our morality?17.27 As children we have amazing imaginations from an early age but our ability to envisage our responsibility takes longer to develop. So how do things like metacognition (our ability to imagine what that looks like from somebody else’s perspective) sit alongside foresight?  19.35 What have you learnt about our capacity to harness this and improve it? Is this a muscle that can be improved? 22.35 You mention short termism and our ability to ignore our foresight. What has your research uncovered about the profound mistakes that we can make when choosing to ignore foresight?27.02 One of our former guests, futurologist Monika Bieleskyte believes that the role of the futurologist should be to try and create positive optimistic scenarios that we can get behind. How do you feel that our capacity for foresight works with that?30.23 How much of our brain’s foresight is routed in our own subjective biased view of reality?34.01 What have you learnt about foresight and wellbeing and what can we take forward from that?36.33 How can we get more effective and efficient at testing our assumptions about the future and our ideas?40.16 What are you working on at the moment? What’s next for you?Social:Instagram           @evolvingleaderLinkedIn             The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter               @Evolving_LeaderThe Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and .Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Mar 22, 2023 • 55min

How the Science of Uncertainty Can Help Us Understand Our Chaotic World with Dr Tim Palmer

This week on the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Dr Tim Palmer. Tim is a Royal Society Research Professor in Climate Physics, he is a senior fellow at the Oxford Martin Institute Programme on Modelling and Predicting Climate and a professorial fellow at Jesus College, Oxford. Tim is a major contributor to improving climate models and is among the researchers who won the 2007 Nobel Prize for authoring the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports. In October 2022 Tim Palmer's book ‘The Primacy of Doubt: From Quantum Physics to Climate Change, How the Science of Uncertainty Can Help Us Understand our Chaotic World’ was published.   0.00 Introduction3.46 In your work we see what appears to be an intuitive approach to embracing uncertainty. Can we start there?6.52 Is it true to say that our economic systems are experiencing more uncertainty and non-linear occurrences recently?9.19 Can we talk about some of the most fundamental scientific concepts of uncertainty that you explore in the book, and how we might take some of that thinking to the challenges that we might be facing in running organisations? 12.46 If we recognise that there will always be uncertainties, but also imagine a world in the future where there might be unlimited computing power where we have the singularity and an abundance of senses, does this increase in knowledge take us closer to a world with no uncertainty? 18.44 Can you help us understand Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle?21.48 If you could go back in time to the 2008 financial crisis, could you use some of what you know and have learnt about uncertainty to moderate that somehow? 33.26 How widespread has the adoption of ensemble methods been?35.13 Can we talk about ensemble methods, specifically focussing in on climate change? How has your work helped us to develop our current understanding of the world’s greatest challenge?43.24 How do you see the science of uncertainty developing over the next decade?47.34 Where do you see uncertainty sitting in the educational curriculum because currently it feels like it hasn’t been adopted into secondary education or across other fields?51.04 Can you bring to life what a typical day looks like to you? Social:Instagram           @evolvingleaderLinkedIn             The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter               @Evolving_LeaderYouTube.           EvolvingLeader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Mar 15, 2023 • 58min

Both/And Thinking with Marianne Lewis

In this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Marianne Lewis. Marianne is dean and professor of management at the Lindner College of Business, University of Cincinnati having previously served as dean of Cass (now Bayes) Business School at City University, London, and as a Fulbright scholar. A thought leader in organizational paradoxes, she explores tensions and competing demands surrounding leadership and innovation. Marianne has been recognized among the world’s most-cited researchers in her field (Web of Science) and received the Paper of the Year award (2000) and Decade Award (2021) from the Academy of Management Review.Marianne Lewis’s book (co-author with Wendy K Smith) ‘Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems’ was published in 2022.  0.00 Introduction4.36 Can you give us an overview of your work?5.22 How do you distinguish between tensions, dilemmas, and the paradoxes in our lives?7.16 Why is it so important to be working on paradox right now for leaders?9.13 Can you walk us through the four types of paradox that you identify and how we experience them?14.01 How does either/or thinking cause issues for leaders and can you give us some examples of how that sets us up to fail?19.10 The trench warfare, or the war of defences seems to be prevalent in politics right now. What do you think is causing that either/or thinking?21.26 You describe a pros and cons list as being one of the mechanisms that encourages either/or thinking. What other mental shortcuts are leaders and others taking that encourages either/or thinking?26.05 How do we enable both/and thinking?34.58 You mention that it’s not easy to look at the assumptions that we should consider if we want to build this paradox mindset. Why is that and how have you helped leaders find a different way forward?39.48 Knowing that people want to move away from negatively experienced emotions, what other tactics or approaches do you take with leaders to arrive at this alternative approach without moving away from those negative emotions?46.20 Organisations are designed primarily to align resources with their goals and minimise risk. Can you tell us about how your research and ideas can help leaders think about structures to stabilise the organisation in the face of uncertainty?50.33 Can you tell us about the research you’re doing into how individuals manage building a paradox mindset?54.19 Did you find a difference in motivations behind various people’s experience with either/or thinking?  Social: Instagram           @evolvingleader LinkedIn             The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter               @Evolving_Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Mar 8, 2023 • 52min

How We Build Beliefs About Ourselves And Others with Dr Joe Barnby

In this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Dr Joe Barnby. Joe is a computational neuroscientist, assistant professor at Royal Holloway in London where he leads the social computation and cognitive representation (SoCCR) lab, and the founder of Senscapes. Through his research, Joe is working to develop better theories of the brain and behavioural basis of social interaction, and how these might be used to explain and treat psychiatric and neurological  disorders. https://www.senscapes.com 0.00 Introduction2.49 Can you give us an overview of your work?7.28 Can you explain how these mathematical models are built?10.28 What are you learning from this about people with an open mindset versus a fixed mindset?14.36 In some of your recent work you mention that there’s been a shift in how neuroscientists and psychologists look at social cognition and how it operates. Can you take us through some of the underlying ideas in this shift of thinking?17.42 What do we do with the output of this work?21.14 What are the moral implications?23.58 In the past you have described the possibility of being able to analyse the nature of an individual’s social threat from others enabling us to build healthier teams. Can you tell us about that?26.15 When we think about how an individual makes sense of the world, they are triangulating between their physical, emotional and all the other senses that are creating this map of the world plus the predictive element of it. How do you start to make sense of that huge amount of complexity and where are we on the journey of being able to capture that complexity?34.49 In your recent research, have you had any ah-ha moments in terms of making progress with those building blocks?39.34 What are the key pieces of insight that someone listening could take from with them from this conversation?41.42 Tell us about Senscapes.46.29 Where will your research go in 2023?49.35 Through the work that you’ve carried out, what have you learnt about yourself and how have you put those learnings into practice? Social: Instagram           @evolvingleader LinkedIn             The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter               @Evolving_Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Mar 1, 2023 • 56min

How the Way You Feel Builds the World You Know with Richard Firth-Godbehere

In this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are in conversation with Richard Firth-Godbehere. Richard is one of the world's leading experts on disgust and emotions, he is an independent researcher and consultant in the history, language, science and philosophy of emotions, and author of ‘A Human History of Human Emotion – How the Way We Feel Built the World We Know’. A Human History of Human Emotion (Fourth Estate, 2023)0.00 Introduction3.29 As a historian, why did you start to focus on emotions as a way of making sense of the past?5.11 You suggest that emotions are a modern construct. Can you tell us about that?7.37 How do you describe what an emotion is?9.04 How do you study the history of emotions?11.40 In your book you talk about how certain emotions have been a driving force of change throughout history whereas we generally think of ideas as being the thing that propels history. Can you elaborate on that a little please?13.54 Can you take us back to Ancient Greece and Plato where you begin your story about understanding emotion’s evolution?17.06 What have you learnt about our relationship with desire?22.07 Your main field of study has been disgust, an emotion that many of us might think is a universal experience. However you’re not so sure…25.03 What does your research reveal about love?31.40 Your research into witch crazes is particularly revealing and relevant to today’s polarising world. 35.50 What does history tell us about the effect of the more optimistic feelings associated with things such as progress and freedom?39.08 You mention several people who have had a profound influence on our modern understanding of emotion. Where was the turning point at which that shifted our understanding of human nature?45.18 In all the things you are currently doing, what’s the area you are wrestling most with in terms of your own uncertainty about what you’ve learnt around emotion?46.40 How can a leader who is listening to this podcast make use of your research findings?49.30 Solastalgia, the emotion that is expressed across the world by people who have had their homes destroyed by climate change.51.57 Do you think there was a highly characteristic and shared emotion around Covid? Social:Instagram    @evolvingleaderLinkedIn        The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter          @Evolving_LeaderYouTube          Evolving Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Feb 22, 2023 • 31min

Eight Principles for Transforming Your Business In A Time of Disruption with Will Page

In this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-host Jean Gomes welcomes back former guest Will Page. Will is the former chief economist at both Spotify and PRS for Music, visiting fellow at London School of Economics and his widely acclaimed book ‘Tarzan Economics’ has just been published in paperback under the slightly different title ‘Pivot: Eight Principles for Transforming Your Business In A Time Of Disruption’.Pivot: Eight Principles For Transforming Your Business In a Time of DisruptionJo Caulfield ‘Supermarket loyalty card’  0.00 Introduction2.14 Why has the title of the book changed for the paperback?3.04 A quick summary of the eight principles.5.39 You say in the book that these principles give us cause for optimism and even confidence. Can you talk about why that it?11.38 Which is the principles would be most salient for our audience? 1. Big data, big mistakes.17.27 How can we stop ourselves making a snap judgement or challenge the contradictions around data, and how do you hold that in your head in other forms of decision making?19.42 2. The growing gig economy23.57 Given the Tarzan Economics predictions, what do you think are the most likely few things that will change this year? 27.20 How are these principles changing your life and mindset? How is it shaping your world? Social:Instagram           @evolvingleaderLinkedIn             The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter               @Evolving_LeaderYouTube           Evolving Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
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Feb 15, 2023 • 35min

The New Definition of Mindset with Jean Gomes and Scott Allender

In this episode of the Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Scott Allender and Jean Gomes take some time to discuss and reflect on a new definition of mindset. Scott also gets Jean to road test a new set of questions that (in future episodes) our two co-hosts will be asking guests about how they think, feel and see the world. ‘Leading In a Non-Linear World’ by Jean Gomes 0’00 Introduction3’27 We’re going to be questioning our guests on how they make sense of the world by building intentional mindsets to confront challenges that they face5’22 Remind us what you mean by feel, think and see10’16 How can people build the connective tissue between all of these things?14’29 Testing the new questions on Jean : Q1. What have you learnt about your mindset as you have developed as a leader?18’11 Q2. When and where have you seen others or yourself hold up the wrong lens to a situation? 21’44 Q3. Can you recall any situations in your career where you and others made significant breakthroughs by challenging fundamental assumptions about what was possible, feasible or desirable? 26’03 Q4. What is the primary way that you tune into you body to determine what’s happening?30’37 Q5. Of all the mindsets that we build and need, what is the single biggest mindset challenge that you personally struggle with the most? Social: Instagram           @evolvingleader LinkedIn             The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter               @Evolving_LeaderYoutube               Evolving Leader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

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