

A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar
Randy Knie & Kyle Whitaker
Mixing a cocktail of philosophy, theology, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests.  Who we are:  Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners.  Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers.  Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters. 
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Jul 1, 2021 • 1h 13min
Incarnation, Unity, and the Femininity of God: An Interview with C. Baxter Kruger
 Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with C. Baxter Kruger, a delightful Trinitarian theologian from Mississippi. Baxter is the perfect mixture of southern grandpa, scotch aficionado, lover of Jesus, and brilliant theologian. Baxter has written a number of books, many essays, and hosts classes and spaces about the nature and wonder of the Incarnation and our mysterious inclusion into the life of the Trinity. Baxter regularly collaborates with former guests such as Brad Jersak and William Paul Young.The whisky we taste in this episode is the Three Wood Single Malt Scotch Whisky by Auchentoshan.Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity (but he's basically quoting the Bible, so it's fine).=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Jun 16, 2021 • 1h 4min
Why the World Will End on September 23, 2023
 Text us your questions!Who doesn't like a good conversation about the end of the world/end times/rapture/dispensationalism? We sure do...over a good scotch. In this episode, we tackle eschatology and end times theology and all the good, bad and ugly of it. Should we be afraid of the future, or hopeful? Is the planet earth going to burn up, or is this all headed somewhere good? What have people thought throughout church history, and why does this all matter?Oh, and we can't leave out Kirk Cameron and Nic Cage. Shout out to the homies.The whisky we taste in this episode is the Lagavulin 11 Year Nick Offerman Guinness Cask Finish from the amazing Lagavulin Distillery.Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Jun 2, 2021 • 1h 17min
Deconstructing Salvation with Megan Westra
 Text us your questions!What does it mean to be "saved"? We talk with Megan Westra about her book Born Again and Again, which offers a compelling reframing of the typical white American evangelical concept of salvation. We touch on everything from the role of racism in how churches present this concept, to her experience growing up as a southern fundamentalist, to the importance of dialogue with people who disagree, to financial stewardship, and more. It's a rich conversation.The books Megan mentions are Religious Resistance to Neoliberalism: Womanist and Black Feminist Perspectives by Keri Day and After Whiteness: An Education in Belonging by Willie Jennings.The beer featured in this episode is Shelter in Case by 1840 Brewing Company.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

May 19, 2021 • 1h 29min
A Catholic and a Protestant Walk into a Bar: Interview with Shaun Blanchard
 Text us your questions!In this episode, we talk with Dr. Shaun Blanchard. Shaun is a Catholic scholar and our conversation ranges from clerical celibacy, ordaining women, the LGBTQ community and Catholicism, abuse scandals, papal authority, and how Catholic and Protestant Christians can understand and love one another well. It's a fun one. You can find some of Shaun's work here.We sampled Noteworthy Sherry Stave Aged Bourbon from the good people at Noteworthy Spirits. Thanks to our friends at Story Hill BKC.The photo for this episode (taken by Kyle) is from under the dome in the St. Josaphat Basilica in Milwaukee.CONTENT NOTE: This episode contains discussion of clergy sexual abuse and some mild profanity.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

May 5, 2021 • 1h 17min
A Philosopher and a Philosopher Ruin Your Theology: Interview with Nick Oschman
 Text us your questions!Dr. Nicholas Oschman joins us for a free-flowing and almost totally unscripted conversation about certainty, deception, whether religious people really believe what they say, orthodoxy, cynicism, charismatic experience, Islamic philosophy, and more. The conversation is raw, honest, and iconoclastic, but also gentle, humble, and hilarious. Whoever you are, we guarantee there's something to challenge you here.The whiskey featured in this episode is Jameson Caskmates Stout Edition.If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC.Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Apr 21, 2021 • 1h 15min
Complementarian Cemeteries and Smashing the Patriarchy: An Interview with Beth Allison Barr
 Text us your questions!Does the idea, or the very phrase, "Biblical Womanhood" make you shudder a bit? Us too.In this episode, we interviewed Beth Allison Barr about her book The Making of Biblical Womanhood. Beth is a Historian at Baylor University, and her book makes a brilliant case that the idea of "Biblical Womanhood" is more of a product of the patriarchal world that the Bible was written in than it is a product of the Bible itself, much less God. Dr. Barr shares from her perspective as a historian, and as a woman who's been marginalized by the church herself in painful ways.This is an important book that needs to be featured in the Church as we journey towards equality and the empowerment of women. The scotch we sample in this episode is Oban Distillers Edition. It's a delightful treat.As usual, if you share us on social media and/or leave a review, we'll love you forever.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Apr 7, 2021 • 1h 21min
What Is Truth: Wrestling with Absolutism, Relativism and Alternative Facts
 Text us your questions!In this episode, Kyle and Randy geek out a little bit about truth. Truth is a tricky term these days, with everyone believing their own "facts" or having their own truths and alternative facts. How does a philosopher see and pursue truth? What is a healthy pastoral way to approach and pursue truth? Is there such a thing as truth at all, let alone absolute truth, as so many Christians attest to? Our resident pastor and philosopher dive in and bring us into a really fun and healthy conversation about truth that our society would do well to engage in.The whiskey we sample in this episode is Four Roses Small Batch Select from the always stellar Four Roses Bourbon. =====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Mar 24, 2021 • 1h 7min
Faith After Doubt: An Interview with Brian McLaren
 Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with the one and only Brian McLaren. Brian has given his adult life to the Church in many ways and has created space for followers of Christ who feel like they exist on the margins of faith and Christianity. Brian has written many influential and important books, and in this episode we chat about his newest book: Faith After Doubt. This is a beautiful and brilliant book that will give you all sorts of space and permission to let your doubts come into the light and let them mature and grow your faith (even if that sounds really crazy right now). This was a truly delightful conversation that we're excited to share with you. Brian speaks to a number of different prayers, books, and resources in the episode. Here are all the things that were mentioned during the conversation:Bishop Nikolai Velimirovic: Prayer Regarding Critics and EnemiesMiguel de Unamuno: San Manuel Bueno, MartirMary Doria Russell: The SparrowBarbara Kingsolver: The Poisonwood BibleJohn Westerhoff: WIll Our Children Have Faith?The two whiskeys featured in this episode are Snake River Stampede Small Batch and their 100th Anniversary Limited Release from Snake River Stampede Ale and Whiskey.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Mar 10, 2021 • 1h 17min
Feminist Pentecostalism: It's a Thing - Interview with Cheryl Bridges Johns
 Text us your questions!In this episode, we speak with Dr. Cheryl Bridges Johns about what it means (and what it's like) to be a feminist Pentecostal, the interplay between reason and mystery, the relationship between virtue and spiritual formation, hermeneutics and ontology, the divine feminine, and even the gift of menopause. It's a rich conversation, and Cheryl's is an important voice within progressive Christianity.Check out some of Cheryl's work mentioned in the episode:Seven Transforming Gifts of Menopause"Grieving, Brooding, and Transforming: The Spirit, the Bible, and Gender"Also look out for her book Re-Enchanting the Text: The Bible for a New Generation.The beverage featured in this episode is Michter's US1 Unblended American Whiskey. Thanks to our friends at Story Hill BKC.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Feb 24, 2021 • 1h 7min
Tov or Toxic Church? An Interview with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
 Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer about their new book that's making waves called A Church Called Tov. This book is extremely important and is a prophetic call to the Church to form a goodness culture that resists abuses of power and promotes healing. We chat about recent scandals of abuse and coverup in the modern church, why we've created toxic church cultures and how we can move toward more beautiful cultures of goodness (Tov) in our churches. Also, we get some dirt on Scot from Laura about some fun and mildly embarrassing stories from growing up with a biblical scholar. Fun times!The whiskey featured in this episode is Belle Meade Bourbon from Green Brier Distillery in Nashville, TN.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 


