

A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar
Randy Knie & Kyle Whitaker
Mixing a cocktail of philosophy, theology, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.
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Feb 24, 2021 • 1h 7min
Tov or Toxic Church? An Interview with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer about their new book that's making waves called A Church Called Tov. This book is extremely important and is a prophetic call to the Church to form a goodness culture that resists abuses of power and promotes healing. We chat about recent scandals of abuse and coverup in the modern church, why we've created toxic church cultures and how we can move toward more beautiful cultures of goodness (Tov) in our churches. Also, we get some dirt on Scot from Laura about some fun and mildly embarrassing stories from growing up with a biblical scholar. Fun times!The whiskey featured in this episode is Belle Meade Bourbon from Green Brier Distillery in Nashville, TN.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Feb 17, 2021 • 1h 9min
An Ash Wednesday Gift - Mark Werner and Contemplative Spirituality
Text us your questions!In this bonus episode, we share an Ash Wednesday gift with you. Mark Werner is Randy's Spiritual Director, and is well acquainted with contemplative spirituality and is a bit of an expert in the ways of the Enneagram. In this episode, Mark shares about his "dark night of the soul" and having a faith crisis while in pastoral ministry, and the more ancient practices that brought him into a more spacious and centered faith journey. Also, we finish our time together by having Mark lead us in some contemplative and centering prayer. You're welcome.The beer featured in this episode is the Tropical Slush by the always fantastic Eagle Park Brewing Company.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Feb 10, 2021 • 1h 4min
The B-I-B-L-E, Part II
Text us your questions!Ever had an issue with violence in the Bible? How about the many inconsistencies in the Scriptures? What about the rampant patriarchy, sexism, and misogyny? There are all sorts of issues and problems within Christianity's sacred text, but does that mean that we have to choose between believing that everything is prescriptive and inspired or walking away from the Bible altogether? In this episode, we offer a different, more nuanced way of approaching and engaging with the Bible.In a portion of the episode that got edited out, Kyle and Randy give some recommended reading for those wanting to go deeper. Here are the books they recommend:Kyle:How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth - Gordon Fee & Douglas StuartWhose Community, Which Interpretation? - Merold WestphalWomanist Midrash - Wilda GafneyRandy:The New Testament in Its World - NT WrightPaul: A Biography - NT WrightThe For Everyone series - NT WrightThe Bible Tells Me So - Peter EnnsHow the Bible Actually Works - Peter EnnsAn Introduction to the Old Testament - Walter Brueggemann & Tod LinafeltThe Prophetic Imagination - Walter BrueggemannThe Prophets - Abraham Joshua HeschelThe beverage featured in this episode is Wollersheim's Press House Brandy.Catch Part 1 here.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Jan 28, 2021 • 1h 3min
The B-I-B-L-E
Text us your questions!What is the Bible? How should we read it? What does it mean for a text to be authoritative? Do I have to believe the Bible is inerrant in order to be a Christian? In this episode, we discuss the beautiful messiness that is the Bible and talk about our relationships with this incredible and ancient text.Catch Part 2 of this conversation here.The whiskey featured in this episode is Wathen's Single Barrel.If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Jan 14, 2021 • 1h 28min
Holy Balls: Power, Masculinity, and the Making of White American Evangelicalism w/ Kristin Kobes Du Mez
Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with Kristin Kobes Du Mez about her book that's been making waves and is brilliantly titled Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation. This book is probably our favorite of 2020 and is a must-read. During the course of this interview, we chat about everything from toxic masculinity and power hungry religious leaders to Amy Grant and Tiffany. Seriously.The whiskey featured in this episode is Weller Special Reserve bourbon from the fantastic Buffalo Trace Distillery.Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Dec 30, 2020 • 1h 17min
Revelation, America, and Bob Dylan: Interview with Brian Zahnd
Text us your questions!In this episode, we chat with Brian Zahnd about his journey from a militaristic, warmongering brand of Christianity to a more peace-loving, Jesus-centered way. Along the way, we touch on everything from his take on the current state of the American church, the Christian's role in the state, the book of Revelation, his favorite philosophers, Christian ethics, the Bible, and Bob Dylan.The whiskey featured in this episode is a special store pick single barrel select edition of Buffalo Trace bourbon from our friends at Story Hill BKC. The scotch Brian mentions is Ardbeg Corryvreckan. AUDIO NOTE: Brian's and Kyle's audio are not quite up to our usual smooth production standard in this episode, because some recording equipment was lost in the mail. Thanks USPS!=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Dec 16, 2020 • 1h 4min
Evolving Creationism
Text us your questions!Did humans come from monkeys? How old is the earth? Should we interpret the Bible literally? Does any of it matter? In this episode, we discuss creationism and evolution, a recurring topic at Randy and Kyle's church Q&A's.The whiskey featured in this episode is Driftless Glen bourbon.If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC.The books and resources for further reading that we recommend at the end of the episode are:The Greatest Show on Earth - Richard DawkinsThe Evolution of Adam - Peter EnnsBiologos.orgThe Lost World of Genesis One - John WaltonThe Lost World of Adam and Eve - John Walton=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

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Dec 2, 2020 • 1h 17min
William Paul Young & Brad Jersak: Judgment, Wrath, Hell, and the God Who Is Love
In this engaging discussion, theologian Brad Jersak and author William Paul Young dive deep into themes from their co-authored work, tackling the nature of God's love and forgiveness. They share personal stories of trauma and healing, shedding light on how these experiences shaped their views on judgment and hell as relational, not locational. The duo also argues for a more Christlike understanding of God, emphasizing the transformative power of love and the importance of authenticity in healing. Expect an insightful exploration of faith, grace, and redemption!

Nov 18, 2020 • 1h 19min
Cheap Whiskey and the Atonement
Text us your questions!How does Jesus's death work? In this episode, Randy, Kyle, and Elliot discuss atonement, the theological issue of how Jesus saves humans. It's a deep dive, and a bit nerdy, but we think it's important.The whiskey featured in this episode is Bulleit Rye.Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity (in the closing bloopers).=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Nov 4, 2020 • 1h 4min
Prayer, Activism, and Racial Justice: Interview with Lisa Koons
Text us your questions!In this episode we talk with Lisa Koons, who is the national director of 24-7 Prayer USA. Our conversation covers the role of prayer in social justice, why more American Christians aren't focused on racial justice, how anger fits into the Christian response to injustice, and more. Lisa has a powerful, healing presence, and we encourage you to meditate on her words here.The beer featured in this episode is La Ruche (Blend #3) by Side Project Brewing.If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC.The artwork for this episode is "Finger of Steel" by Mathieu Cesar. The video mentioned is "How Can We Win" by Kimberly Jones (contains explicit language).=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!


