

A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar
Randy Knie & Kyle Whitaker
Mixing a cocktail of philosophy, theology, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests.  Who we are:  Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners.  Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers.  Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters. 
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 18, 2021 • 1h 14min
Converging Traditions, Toxic Environments, and Healthy Spiritual Practices: An Interview with Aaron Niequist
 Text us your questions!Aaron Niequist has been to the top of the evangelical mountain and has experienced first hand the goodness and the toxicity and the pain that is often a byproduct of that world. He's come out of the belly of the evangelical beast without the bitterness and cynicism that many of us fall victim to. He doesn't want to label himself an Ex-vangelical. He's dreaming of living in and creating spiritual places and practices that are a convergence of the best of a number of Christian traditions, and it's beautiful. Check out his 2018 book The Eternal Current.In this episode, we tasted Eagle Park Brewing's BOTM's Up and Big BOTM's. They're delicious.To skip the tasting, go to 4:43. You can find the transcript for this episode here.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Nov 4, 2021 • 1h 10min
How to Be Happy: A Conversation with Frank Schaeffer
 Text us your questions!We cover a lot of ground in this one folks. You may know Frank Schaeffer as the son of famed evangelical author Francis Schaeffer, but since helping his father found the religious right in America (we're not kidding), Frank has had a dramatic personal transformation and a fascinating career. We talk with him about his new book Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. The conversation covers Frank's role in abortion becoming the cause célèbre of the American evangelical establishment, his relationship with his parents and other famous evangelical leaders of recent decades, what a family values agenda would actually look like, how corporate tech culture is killing people's ability to be happy, and how understanding human evolution can help. Frank is raw, honest, and deliciously brash. He's also got a potty mouth, so be advised if you're listening with children.Check out Frank's own podcast, In Conversation... with Frank Schaeffer.The beer we taste in this episode is Terror Dome from Saint Errant Brewing.To skip the tasting, go to 6:13. You can find the transcript for this episode here.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Oct 21, 2021 • 56min
Shoutin' in the Fire: Interview with Danté Stewart
 Text us your questions!Danté Stewart's book Shoutin' in the Fire: An American Epistle is one of the most stirring and powerfully written that we've encountered on the podcast. This conversation with him is comparable. He's engaging, funny, and erudite all at once, and he has critical things to teach the white church if we'll listen. He's also super well-read, and he wants you to be too. Here are the five authors/books he mentions in the episode:Robert Jones Jr. (The Prophets)Deesha Philyaw (The Secret Lives of Church Ladies)Kiese Laymon (Heavy)Jason Reynolds (Look Both Ways)Jesmyn Ward (Sing, Unburied, Sing)This is one of those interviews that was so rich we had to trim it down significantly for time. If you want to hear the extra content that didn't make it into the episode--including a deep dive into the philosophy of Frantz Fanon, some reflections on the interview from Kyle and Randy, and more--subscribe to our Patreon (link below)!The whisky we tasted in this episode is Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban.To skip the tasting, go to 7:08. You can find the transcript for this episode here.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Oct 6, 2021 • 1h 9min
What Happens When We Die?
 Text us your questions!Heavy. Weighty. Decentering.In this episode we discuss the afterlife. What happens when we die? Kyle takes us on a journey through historic philosophical thinking about afterlife and why we just don't know what happens when we die. Randy mixes in some pastoral and spiritual insights here and some possible heresy there...delicious.Content Warning: If the idea of the possibility of there being no life after death is too disturbing at this moment to consider, please don't listen to this episode. We've got lots of other episodes for you to catch up on.The whiskey we tasted in this episode is Ezra Brooks 99 by Lux Row Distillers.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Sep 23, 2021 • 1h 12min
Two Pastors and Two Philosophers Walk Into a Bar
 Text us your questions!This is a fun one, friends. In this episode, we chat with Sameer and Sharad Yadav - identical twin brothers who are a pastor and a philosopher. No, really.Sameer is a theologian and a philosopher who teaches religious studies at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, CA, and Sharad is Lead Pastor of Bread and Wine, a church in Portland, OR. We chatted about so much - theology, philosophy, the current reality and future of the church, mysticism, wonder, mystery, and apophatic spirituality, just to name a few. Also, we laughed. A lot. These guys are a snarky, irreverent riot.We tasted the incredible Elliot mead from Manic Meadery in Crown Point, IN. It's joy in a cup.Content note: this episode contains some strong language that may not be suitable for children.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Sep 8, 2021 • 51min
Prey Tell: Silencing or Believing Women in the Church with Tiffany Bluhm
 Text us your questions!CONTENT NOTE: This episode contains discussion of sexual harassment and abuse.We interview author and podcaster Tiffany Bluhm about the depressing trend in the American church and the broader culture of ignoring, disbelieving, and actively silencing women who are sexually harassed or abused, often by church leaders themselves and often to protect institutions with oppressive cultures. Her book Prey Tell is a timely and important analysis of the sinister ways this trend is caused and perpetuated within the church and what we can do about it. If you've read and enjoyed the other recent books in the "Christian Thanos Gauntlet," you won't want to miss this one.The beer featured in the episode is 2020 Black Gold from Central Waters Brewery. The whiskey we were drinking during the interview (not featured) is Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon. The Milwaukee sushi restaurant Tiffany mentions is (probably) Spicy Tuna. Special thanks to Story Hill BKC for their support.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Aug 25, 2021 • 60min
Reparations, Hot Dogs, and Owning Our History: An Interview with Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson
 Text us your questions!Randy and Kyle talk with Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson about their recent book Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance and Repair, in which they grapple with the church's responsibility to repair the great damage done to African Americans by the history--and ongoing reality--of racism in the United States. Duke and Greg are forceful and eloquent and refreshingly hopeful. It's an important conversation that will hopefully spawn many others.The letter discussed at the beginning of the episode can be found here: https://www.facinghistory.org/reconstruction-era/letter-jourdon-anderson-freedman-writes-former-master.The whiskey featured in this episode is Traverse City Straight Bourbon.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Aug 11, 2021 • 55min
The End of Reason: Thinking about Faith with Kierkegaard
 Text us your questions!Kyle and Randy discuss faith, reason, existentialism, and what it means to be a Christian with a little help from 19th century philosopher Soren Kierkegaard. We touch on all sorts of fun things, like why being American has nothing to do with being Christian, why being religious isn't the same thing as being Christian, why approaching faith with your brain first is probably not Christian either, and much more. There's something here to offend everyone, we promise.The beer we sample in this episode is Pilsner Urquell. The book Kyle recommends at the end is The Essential Kierkegaard. For more on Kyle's thoughts on the relation between faith and belief, see here.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Jul 28, 2021 • 57min
The Only God Ordained Podcast Episode on the Internet: An Interview with Pete Enns
 Text us your questions!We got to talk about the Bible with Pete Enns. This podcast thing can be a pretty good gig.Pete is a biblical scholar, Old Testament teacher and expert, a host of The Bible for Normal People podcast, and (unfortunately) a Yankees fan. We talk about what it means that the Bible is inspired, what it means that the Scriptures are authoritative, contradictions within the Bible, the universal work of the Spirit, and other light and easy topics. The whiskey we tasted is Woodford Reserve's Wheat Whiskey. Get it in liquor stores everywhere.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info:  Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify  Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube  Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com  Cheers! 

Jul 14, 2021 • 1h 18min
Biblical Translations, Agendas, and Gender Bias with Beth Allison Barr and Scot McKnight
 Beth Allison Barr, author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood, and Scot McKnight engage in a fascinating conversation about biblical translations, biases, and gender bias. They delve into the controversies surrounding the English Standard Version (ESV) and its association with complementarianism and gender bias. They explore the challenges of translating biblical texts without personal bias and the importance of reading the preface of a translation. The speakers also discuss the reliability of different Bible translations, debunk conspiracy theories, and emphasize the importance of expertise in determining translation faithfulness. 


