

The PILLAR Performance Podcast
PILLAR Performance
An endurance podcast that connects with athletes and experts in their field to help athletes get to the start line in their best condition.
Head of Research Dr. Dan Plews, Head of Nutrition Pip Taylor and Founder of PILLAR Performance Damien Fitzpatrick unpack the stories and learnings to educate you about the pillars of micronutrition: sleep / recovery, immunity, inflammation and energy.
Head of Research Dr. Dan Plews, Head of Nutrition Pip Taylor and Founder of PILLAR Performance Damien Fitzpatrick unpack the stories and learnings to educate you about the pillars of micronutrition: sleep / recovery, immunity, inflammation and energy.
Episodes
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Nov 7, 2024 • 1h
Unlocking the Secrets of Collagen Peptides for Athletes
In this episode of the Pillar Performance podcast, Dr. Dan Plews hosts Martin Walter and Ulrike Braun from Gelita to discuss the significance of collagen and specially
Tendorforte in nutrition and its applications in sports and health.
They explore the differences between collagen, gelatin, and collagen peptides, the history of Gelita, and the specific benefits of their product Tendafort for athletes. The conversation highlights the importance of collagen in connective tissue health, injury prevention, and the
engineering of collagen for targeted benefits. In this conversation, Dr. Dan Plews, Ulrike Braun, and Martin Walter discuss the significance of collagen supplementation in athletic performance, injury prevention, and recovery. They explore the differences between collagen and whey protein, optimal dosages, and the importance of consistency in training. The discussion also highlights the broader benefits of collagen for all populations, including its
role in combating sarcopenia and improving overall quality of life as one ages.
Takeaways
Collagen is crucial for connective tissue health.
Gelita has a long history in the collagen market.
Collagen peptides are more effective than gelatin for supplementation.
Different collagen types target specific body functions.
Tendoforte is designed specifically for athletes' needs.
Collagen supplementation can aid in injury recovery.
The body continuously remodels collagen in response to stress.
Collagen can be sourced from various animals, each with unique benefits.
Research shows collagen peptides stimulate collagen production in the body.
Proper collagen supplementation can reduce injury risk in athletes. Consistency in training is crucial for performance.
Collagen can aid in injury prevention for all types of injuries.
Collagen and whey protein can be complementary in a diet.
Daily intake of collagen is recommended for optimal benefits.
Collagen helps improve recovery from muscle soreness.
Collagen supplementation can benefit older adults and combat sarcopenia.
The unique amino acid profile of collagen supports connective tissue health.
Timing of collagen intake can influence its effectiveness.
Research supports the use of collagen for muscle mass increase.
Collagen supplementation is beneficial for both athletes and non-athletes.
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Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance

Oct 25, 2024 • 46min
Scott Dickens - Behind the brand: FORM Smart Swim Goggles
In this episode, Scott Dickens shares his inspiring journey from childhood swimmer to professional athlete and Director of Business Development of FORM Swim Goggles. He discusses his early passion for swimming, Olympic aspirations, and diverse career paths, including finance and sales. Scott highlights FORM Swim Goggles’ innovative technology, which features a heads-up display for real-time data, making it a game-changer for swimmers. The company has evolved into a comprehensive swim training platform, targeting elite athletes, triathletes, and fitness enthusiasts, with a focus on the triathlon market. Scott also covers challenges in pricing and market perception, recent approval from World Triathlon, and FORM’s mission to enhance endurance sports performance through cutting-edge biometrics.
Takeaways
Scott Diggins started swimming at a young age and quickly progressed through swimming lessons.
He excelled in swimming and set his sights on the Olympics.
After finishing his swimming career, Scott explored different career paths before pursuing an MBA.
He joined FORM Swim Goggles, a sports tech company that specializes in smart goggles with a heads-up display. Form has evolved from a product that provided real-time biometric feedback for swimming to a comprehensive swim training platform.
Their target market right now is the triathlon market, as they understand the importance of technology and data in that space.
FORM has an omnichannel strategy to educate and reach consumers, including small retailers and larger chains.
They have recently obtained approval from World Triathlon for their Smart Swim goggles, which is a significant win for the triathlon community.
FORM’s focus is on elevating the performance of endurance sports through real-time biometrics, and they have exciting plans for the future.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:18 Transitioning from Talent to Passion
14:02 Introduction to Form Swim Goggles
32:34 Omnichannel Approach: Educating and Reaching Consumers
40:56 Approval from World Triathlon: A Significant MilestonePILLAR Performance
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STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance
FORM Swim
Website: https://www.formswim.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/formswim/

Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 20min
Dr Tommy Wood - Brain Health & Performance
In this episode of the PILLAR Podcast, Dr Dan Plews uncovers Tommy's background as a neuroscientist and athlete, including his experience in rowing and his current work in Formula One. They also delve into the topic of athletes' fitness and health, highlighting the trade-offs and challenges in maintaining both. They discuss the importance of nutrient density, the balance between minimising relative energy deficiency and getting the right nutrients, and the underlying fat phobia in the sports community.
Maintaining brain health as we age involves stimulating the brain through learning and new experiences. It is important to maintain a healthy vascular system to ensure proper blood flow to the brain. Nutrients such as B vitamins, omega-3, vitamin D, iron, and magnesium play a crucial role in brain health.
Social connection and community involvement are also important for brain health and overall well-being. The conversation explores the impact of social isolation on health, the importance of community, and the role of various nutrients in brain health. It discusses the evolutionary response to social stress and isolation, which can lead to immune system shifts and increased inflammation.
The conversation also highlights the importance of cognitive stimulation through activities like music, language learning, and sports. It emphasises the need to challenge oneself and engage in activities that are outside of one's comfort zone. The role of B vitamins, omega-3 fatty acids, and magnesium in brain health is also discussed.
Takeaways
Tommy is a neuroscientist and an athlete with a background in rowing and current work in Formula One.
Athletes' fitness and health are not always the same, and there are trade-offs in maintaining both.
Nutrient density is important for athletes, but it can be challenging to balance with caloric needs.
There is an underlying fat phobia in the sports community that affects athletes' dietary choices. Stimulate the brain through learning and new experiences to maintain cognitive function.
Maintain a healthy vascular system to ensure proper blood flow to the brain.
Include nutrients such as B vitamins, omega-3, vitamin D, iron, and magnesium in the diet for brain health.
Social connection and community involvement are important for brain health and overall well-being. Social isolation can lead to immune system shifts and increased inflammation.
Engaging in cognitive stimulation through activities like music, language learning, and sports is important for brain health.
B vitamins, omega-3 fatty acids, and magnesium play a role in brain health.
Testing and maintaining adequate levels of these nutrients is crucial for optimal brain function.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Connection
03:09 Tommy's Background as a Neuroscientist and Athlete
06:16 Dr. Dan Plews' Introduction to Tommy's Work
21:57 Challenges of Nutrient Density and Caloric Needs
24:26 The Underlying Fat Phobia in the Sports Community
47:41 Maintaining Brain Health Through Stimulation and Learning
50:20 The Role of a Healthy Vascular System in Brain Health
52:06 The Importance of Social Connection for Brain Health
54:01 Social Isolation and Community
56:09 Cognitive Stimulation
01:00:40 B Vitamins, Homocysteine, and Cognitive Decline
01:05:41 Omega-3s and Homocysteine Levels
01:11:48 The Role of Magnesium in Brain Health
PILLAR Performance
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STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance
Dr Dan Plews: https://www.instagram.com/theplews/
Dr Tommy Wood: https://www.instagram.com/drtommywood/

Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 14min
Omega-3 for Inflammation & Performance Recovery - Dr Dan Plews x Dr Greg Peoples
Dr. Greg Peoples, a sports nutrition expert, discusses the vital role of Omega-3 fatty acids in athletic performance and recovery. He explains the differences between EPA and DHA, emphasizing their importance in reducing inflammation and muscle soreness. The conversation dives into the ideal Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio for optimal recovery and highlights the need for quality supplementation. Dr. Peoples shares insights on how consistent Omega-3 intake benefits athletes' cardiovascular health and enhances recovery processes, making it a critical nutritional strategy.

Aug 21, 2024 • 1h 6min
Nutrition & Supplementation for Endurance Athletes - Mikki Williden x Dr Dan Plews
In this episode of the Pillar Performance Podcast, Dr. Dan Plews interviews Mikki Williden, a nutritionist and expert in sports nutrition. They discuss various topics including their personal journeys in the low-carb high-fat space, the importance of protein in an athlete's diet, and the impact of stress on productivity and health. Mikki emphasizes the need for context-specific nutrition recommendations and highlights the role of protein in recovery and body composition. They also touch on the challenges of meeting high protein requirements and provide tips for incorporating more protein into the diet
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
03:03 Evolution of Nutrition Views: Low-Carb High-Fat
09:30 Shift to Protein-Centric Nutrition
20:33 Challenges and Tips for Meeting High Protein Requirements
24:25 The Benefits of Increasing Protein Intake
34:33 Debunking Myths: Protein Intake and Kidney Health
43:12 Understanding the Relationship Between Protein and Cancer
46:21 Considering Individual Differences in Nutrition
48:16 Understanding FODMAPs and their Impact
50:27 Individualizing Protein Intake
53:24 Exploring the Benefits of Supplements
59:06 The Importance of Tracking Food Intake
01:04:03 Discovering Micopedia: A Podcast for Health and Nutrition
Takeaways
- Protein is essential for athletes and plays a crucial role in recovery and body composition.
- The recommended protein intake for endurance athletes is around 1.2-1.4 grams per kg of body weight, but higher protein intake may be necessary for athletes with high training loads or following a low-carb diet.
- Stress has a significant impact on productivity and health, and it is often overlooked in favor of focusing solely on diet and exercise.
- Context-specific nutrition recommendations are essential, as there is no one-size-fits-all approach.
- Meeting high protein requirements can be challenging, but it is possible with proper planning and incorporating protein-rich foods into meals and snacks. Increasing protein intake can lead to a leaner body shape and increased satiety.
- Protein is more metabolically costly to digest compared to carbohydrates and fats, resulting in fewer available calories.
- There is no evidence to support the myth that high protein intake damages the kidneys or causes cancer.
- Individual differences should be considered when determining dietary needs, and auto-regulation is important.
- For female athletes, there is no clear evidence to suggest that they need to do anything different from male athletes in terms of nutrition, but adjustments can be made based on individual experiences during different phases of the menstrual cycle.
- FODMAPs, which are fermentable carbohydrates, can cause bloating and gastrointestinal issues in some people. It's important to be aware of FODMAP content in sports drinks and consider alternatives during training.
Inflammation can be higher during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle due to increased estrogen levels. Making dietary changes to reduce inflammation can be beneficial.
- Supplements like black currant and magnesium can have potential benefits for athletes, but individual responses may vary. It's important to consider the quality and absorption of supplements.
- Tracking food intake through a food diary can provide valuable insights into nutrient intake and help identify deficiencies or imbalances. It can also help educate individuals about their food choices and portion sizes.
PILLAR Performance
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STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance
Mikki Williden: https://www.instagram.com/mikkiwilliden/
Dr Dan Plews: https://www.instagram.com/theplews/

Jul 15, 2024 • 1h 19min
Ketone Utilsation for Athletes - Dr Dom D'Ogastino x Dr Dan Plews
In this conversation, Dom D'Agostino discusses his background in nutrition and neuroscience, his research on ketosis and its therapeutic effects, and the use of ketones in fueling performance. They explore the benefits of ketones for endurance athletes, the importance of metabolic flexibility, and the role of ketone supplementation. They also touch on the adaptation to ketosis, the dawn effect, and the relationship between ketones and exercise. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the intersection of strength training and endurance sports. In this conversation, the guest discusses his experience with specific movements in weightlifting and the benefits of incorporating different exercises to address weaknesses. The conversation then shifts to the topic of carbohydrate metabolism and the controversy surrounding high carbohydrate consumption in endurance sports. The guest shares his perspective on the importance of glycemic control and the potential long-term effects of high carbohydrate intake. They also discuss the use of supplements such as magnesium, alpha lipoic acid, and omega-3 fatty acids for performance and recovery.
Takeaways
- Ketosis can have therapeutic effects on the brain and body, stabilizing brain energy metabolism, neurotransmitter systems, and blood flow to the brain.
- Endurance athletes can benefit from training their bodies to use fat as fuel and optimizing their glycemic control through carbohydrate titration.
- Ketone utilization improves with sustained ketosis, allowing the body to produce and dispose of ketones more efficiently.
- The dawn effect, a spike in cortisol in the morning, can impact ketone and glucose levels.
- Strength training and endurance sports can complement each other, with power-to-weight ratio being a key factor in performance. In weightlifting, it is important to address weaknesses by incorporating different exercises that target specific movements and improve stability.
- Ketone esters may have potential benefits for athletic performance, but it is important to use them strategically and avoid high levels that can cause an acidic load and impair performance.
- The controversy surrounding high carbohydrate consumption in endurance sports highlights the need for individualized approaches and the consideration of glycemic control.
- Supplements such as magnesium, alpha lipoic acid, and omega-3 fatty acids can play a role in performance and recovery.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:26 Fueling Performance with a Super Fuel
13:12 Optimizing Performance for Endurance Athletes
27:56 Ketone Utilization and Adaptation
30:33 The Role of Carbohydrates and Timing
35:25 The Intersection of Strength Training and Endurance Sports
38:18 Addressing Weaknesses in Weightlifting
39:37 Exploring the New Endurance Sport: High Rocks
41:57 The Potential Benefits and Strategic Use of Ketone Esters for Athletic Performance
47:28 The Controversy of High Carbohydrate Consumption in Endurance Sports
50:53 The Role of Supplements in Performance and Recovery
PILLAR Performance
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STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance
Dom D’Ogastino: https://www.instagram.com/dominic.dagostino.kt/
Dr Dan Plews: https://www.instagram.com/theplews/

Jun 11, 2024 • 43min
Alex De Boer - Behind the swimwear brand
Alex de Boer, an entrepreneur in the triathlon industry, began his journey selling wetsuits at triathlon events and eventually secured a license with Ironman, building it into Europe's leading wetsuit brand. After Ironman sold the license, he founded his own brand, De Boer, which focuses on high-end, innovative wetsuits and swimwear for triathletes and swimmers. Emphasising customer relationships and empowerment, Alex's story highlights the importance of seizing opportunities and following one's passion. De Boer, driven by a commitment to making athletes faster in the water, started with Jan Frodeno's endorsement of the Fjord 1.0 wetsuit. The brand has since partnered with top athletes like Daniela Ryf and Ben Kanute and aims to be one of the top swim brands globally.
Takeaways
- Seize opportunities and take risks in entrepreneurship
- Building relationships with customers is crucial
- Allow customers to make their own decisions
- Passion for innovation drive success of De Boer wetsuits to fulfil their mission of making athletes faster in the water.
- Partnerships with top athletes have helped drive product improvements.
- The company is expanding into the swimwear market.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:48 The Journey from Selling Wetsuits to Building a Brand
11:19 The Power of Seizing Opportunities
16:08 Passion and Innovation: Keys to Success in the Wetsuit Business
28:07 Recognizing a Gap in the Market
33:53 Creating the De Boer Brand
39:18 Aiming for Olympic Gold in 2028
PILLAR Performance
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STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pillarperformance
De Boer
https://deboerwetsuits.com/
https://www.instagram.com/deboerswim/

May 22, 2024 • 1h 12min
Hunter McIntryre - Optimizing Performance for HYROX
In this episode, PILLAR's Head of Research Dr Dan Plews interviews Hunter McIntyre, a world champion in HYROX. Hunter shares his journey as an athlete and his training methods. He discusses his background in running and wrestling, his transition to obstacle course racing, and his success in various sports. McIntyre emphasizes the importance of strength and endurance in his training, as well as the need for efficiency and power. He follows a training plan that includes a mix of low-intensity and high-intensity sessions, focusing on power, weight, and efficiency.
McIntyre also highlights the significance of aerobic fitness in HYROX and the benefits of maintaining a strong aerobic capacity. Hunter McIntyre discusses his coaching experience with world record-breaking athletes and his own training journey in various sports, including HYROX and Ironman. He emphasizes the importance of volume and efficiency in training, as well as the role of nutrition and supplements in optimizing performance. McIntyre also shares insights on the mistakes endurance athletes make when transitioning to HYROX and offers advice for training and competing in the sport. He discusses his sports nutrition company and the need for specific and effective supplements in the market. McIntyre also mentions his online training platform, Hunter's Academy of Strength, which focuses on educating athletes and improving their performance.
Takeaways
- Hunter McIntyre's success as an athlete is attributed to his dedication to training and his unique combination of strength and endurance.
- Efficiency and power are key factors in McIntyre's training, and he focuses on developing these qualities through a variety of exercises and sports.
- Maintaining a strong aerobic capacity is crucial in high rocks, and McIntyre emphasizes the importance of aerobic fitness in his training.
- McIntyre follows a training plan that includes a mix of low-intensity and high-intensity sessions, with a focus on power, weight, and efficiency.
- His training week consists of running, biking, and specific station work, with an emphasis on building stamina and maintaining aerobic fitness.
- Training volume and efficiency are key to improving performance in high rocks and other endurance sports.- Proper nutrition and supplementation can enhance athletic performance and recovery.
- Endurance athletes transitioning to high rocks should focus on race pace and avoid overtraining.
Chapters
00:00 Hunter McIntyre's Athletic Journey
08:35 The Power-Endurance Balance
13:24 The Importance of Aerobic Fitness
29:41 A Week in the Life of Hunter McIntyre
36:49 Coaching World Records and Training Volume
39:13 Efficiency and Fueling in Endurance Sports
46:08 Mistakes in Transitioning to High Rocks
50:27 Sports Nutrition and Supplement Gap
53:41 Hunter's Academy of Strength
Hunter McIntyre
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/huntthesheriff/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/ @HunterMcIntyre
PILLAR PerformanceShop online: https://pillarperformance.shop/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pillarperformance_/Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pillarperformanceSTRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245 Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/61jzgXksYsWryVDHFF4lDs?si=94c8e415b5f74e22&nd=1&dlsi=7f152f0de9cb4ae6

May 17, 2024 • 1h 13min
Chelsea Sodaro - Overcoming Injuries and Challenges
In today’s episode Chelsea discusses her background as a runner and her transition to triathlon. She shares her early experiences in running, including the pressure she felt as a young athlete and the challenges she faced in finding the right training environment. Chelsea highlights the importance of finding the right balance between training partners and coaching. She also mentions her successful running career, including her personal best times in various distances.
Chelsea reflects on the realities of pregnancy and postpartum recovery as an athlete and the challenges she faced after winning Kona. She emphasises the need to enjoy the journey and focus on the opinions of those who truly matter.
Chelsea also mentions her favourite micronutrients from PILLAR Performance: Triple Mag and Ultra Omega.
Takeaways
Finding the right training environment and coaching is crucial for success in athletics.
Balancing training partners and coaching can be challenging, but it's important to find the right fit.
Pressure as a young athlete can impact enjoyment and performance.
Injuries can be a significant obstacle in an athlete's career.
Transitioning from running to triathlon requires adjustments and new training strategies.
Transitioning from Olympic distance to longer distances in triathlon can be a lifestyle choice based on happiness and well-being.
Having a strong support system is crucial for athletes, especially during pregnancy and postpartum recovery.
Winning a major race like Kona does not guarantee a smooth journey afterward, and it's important to manage expectations.
Enjoying the journey and focusing on the opinions of those who truly matter can lead to greater success and fulfilment.
Pillar Performance's Triple Mag and Ultra Omega are recommended micronutrients for athletes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Current Location
10:14 Chelsea's Running Pedigree
29:30 Breakthrough Performances and National Titles
33:14 Importance of Training Environment and Coaching
36:40 Impressive Personal Best Times
37:39 Transitioning to Triathlon
38:07 Choosing Happiness and Longer Distances in Triathlon
39:07 The Importance of a Strong Support System
42:53 The Realities of Pregnancy and Postpartum Recovery as an Athlete
46:48 Managing Expectations After Winning Kona
56:54 The Expectation vs. Reality of Pivotal Moments
01:07:33 Enjoying the Journey and Focusing on What Matters
01:12:22 Recommended Micronutrients for Athletes: Triple Mag and Ultra Omega
Chelsea Sodaro: https://www.instagram.com/chelseasodaro/
Dr Dan Plews:
https://www.instagram.com/theplews/
PILLAR Performance
Shop online: https://pillarperformance.shop/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pillarperformance_/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pillarperformance
STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/61jzgXksYsWryVDHFF4lDs?si=94c8e415b5f74e22&nd=1&dlsi=7f152f0de9cb4ae6

May 8, 2024 • 43min
Cooking Tips For Athletes - Interview With Byron Bay Chef Lucas Becker
Lucas Becker, also known as Byron Bay Chef, shares his passion for healthy and fresh cooking. He emphasises the importance of balance and flexibility in maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Lucas provides practical tips for beginners in the kitchen, such as getting organised, keeping it simple, and using versatile cooking methods. He also highlights the benefits of batch cooking and meal prepping to save time and money. Lucas encourages athletes to prioritise cooking their own meals to fuel their performance and avoid the cost and potential health risks of eating out. He shares recipes and tips on his Instagram and offers a comprehensive cooking course called Kitchen Hero.
Takeaways
Maintaining a healthy lifestyle requires balance and flexibility.
Getting organised and keeping it simple are key to cooking more from home.
Versatile cooking methods like roasting, grilling, and steaming are essential skills.
Batch cooking and meal prepping can save time and money.
Cooking your own meals is important for athletes to fuel their performance.
Lucas shares recipes and tips on his Instagram and offers a comprehensive cooking course called Kitchen Hero.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:05 Finding Balance and Flexibility in Healthy Eating
10:07 Practical Tips for Beginners in the Kitchen
17:46 Cooking Basics: Eggs and Essential Equipment
33:01 Grab-and-Go Breakfast Ideas
40:27 Cooking for Athletes: Performance and Savings
42:39 Recipes, Tips, and Kitchen Hero Course
PILLAR Performance
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pillarperformance_/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pillarperformance
STRAVA: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1108245
Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/61jzgXksYsWryVDHFF4lDs?si=94c8e415b5f74e22&nd=1&dlsi=7f152f0de9cb4ae6
Chef Lucas Becker: https://www.instagram.com/byronbaychef/


