

This Is TASTE
Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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Jul 24, 2024 • 58min
437: Cake Zine’s Candy Land
Cake Zine is an independent print magazine exploring society through sweets, cofounded by Tanya Bush and TASTE contributing editor and the show's co-host Aliza Abarbanel. Their fifth issue, Candy Land, explores candy’s connections to the natural and unnatural world. On the show, Aliza and Tanya unpack how they made the issue and the many cultural connotations of candy. Also on the show, Amy Rose Spiegel reads a piece from the latest issue.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.MORE FROM CAKE ZINE
Candy Land [official]
This Is TASTE 329: Cake Zine’s Tough Cookie [TASTE]
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Jul 22, 2024 • 1h 2min
436: Kareem Rahma
Kareem Rahma is a comedian and media host based in New York City. He’s the mind behind several popular online series, like Subway Takes and Keep the Meter Running, where he provides an insider look into the hot takes and taxi driver dining destinations that power the city. It’s so fun to have him on the show to talk about his new show The Last Stop, his media POV, and his past as a teenage delinquent McDonald’s employee. Also on the show, Aliza and Matt discuss what they are loving in the world of produce. What's great at the farmer's market, Row 7's exciting garleek, and how it all works into recent cooking projects.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.MORE FROM KAREEM RAHMA
How a Subway Talk Show Won Over the Internet (and Olivia Wilde) [GQ]
The Empath: How Kareem Rahma Took Over Your Feed [Brooklyn Magazine]
Baby Boomers have ruined the world..it's time for REVENGE! [YouTube]
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Jul 19, 2024 • 56min
435: René Redzepi
René Redzepi talks about his show Omnivore, the future of Noma, and the wonders of coffee. Topics in the podcast include the history of tuna, the misunderstood banana, and the success of Noma. They also discuss key lime pie collaborations, dining experiences at Korean and European restaurants, and exploring diverse magazines at a physical retail space.

Jul 17, 2024 • 56min
434: Khushbu Shah
Journalist Khushbu Shah shares insights on Indian American cooking in her new book. Topics include the evolution of Indian cuisine in America, unique recipes like jaggery fennel rice crispy treats, and favorite foods. They also discuss potential biopics, chilled noodles in Long Island City, and experiencing 'Illinois' on Broadway.

Jul 15, 2024 • 42min
433: Caroline Chambers
What a fun conversation we have with Caroline Chambers, the author of the popular Substack What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking, as well as an upcoming cookbook of the same name. Caroline has had such an interesting career in food media, and we dig into how she went from relative obscurity to running the number one ranked Substack in the competitive food category. We talk about what makes a great Internet recipe, and how she worked social media hard during the pandemic to speak with an audience that was looking for just what she was cooking - when many didn’t feel like cooking. We also talk about her life in California, her time living in New York City, and sneak a little sports talk into the mix as well. Caroline is a new favorite of ours and we hope you enjoy this talk.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.MORE FROM CAROLINE CHAMBERS:
The WTC vacation house meal plan [Substack]
Tuna cottage cheese avocado salad [IG]
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Jul 13, 2024 • 1h 17min
432: Molly Baz & Dwight Garner
Molly Baz, a talented recipe developer with a unique voice, discusses her latest book, 'More Is More,' focusing on the explosion of flavor and creativity in cooking. Dwight Garner, a New York Times book critic, shares insights from his acclaimed work, 'The Upstairs Delicatessen,' which blends food and literature in delightful ways. They explore culinary maximalism, favorite meals, and the joy of storytelling through food, creating a vibrant conversation that celebrates the intersection of gastronomy and literature.

Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 3min
431: Chicago Hospitality Accountability with the CHAAD Project
The Chicago Hospitality Accountability and Advocacy Database, or the CHAAD Project, is an organization created by and for hospitality workers in Chicago to advance accountability and end labor abuses within the industry. On this episode Aliza speaks with cofounder and director of communications Raeghn Draper on the show to talk about CHAAD’s work and about building a more equitable hospitality industry. It’s essential listening for anyone who loves food and restaurants.Also on the show we talk about these booming NA beer times we are living in. TASTE columnist Jordan Michelman returns to the show to talk about the NA beer story he dropped this week. Jordan tasted over 60 alcohol-free beers from around the world. Which came out on top? Listen to find out.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.READ MORE ABOUT CHAAD AND NA BEER:
The CHAAD Project [official]
Chicago Hospitality Workers Have New Digital Tool [BCC]
It’s Cool to Care About NA Beer [TASTE]
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Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 24min
430: Jess Damuck & Sara B. Franklin
Today on the show we feature conversations with two extremely cool authors. First up is Jess Damuck, author of the new cookbook Health Nut. We catch up with Jess about a pivot away from salads, what she’s cooking at home in Los Angeles, and how she brought a lot of color to the book’s recipe development and striking photography. Also on the show we have a great talk with Sara B. Franklin. We discuss her new book on legendary cookbook editor Judith Jones, and how Jones’ great influence is still felt in cookbook publishing today. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.MORE FROM JESS DAMUCK & SARA B. FRANKLIN
Coconut Tahini Toast Is the Only Thing We Want To See Before 8 a.m. [Well + Good]
How to Make an Excellent Salad Dressing [FT]
My Lunches with Judith Jones, the Queen of Cookbooks [TASTE]
She Was More Than the Woman Who Made Julia Child Famous [NYT]
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Jul 8, 2024 • 55min
429: The Art of the Dinner Party Nap with Big Night’s Katherine Lewin
Katherine Lewin is the founder of Big Night, an entertaining-focused home goods store with two locations here in New York City. She’s also the author of Big Night, the cookbook, which is a truly excellent new back-pocket hosting companion, with recipes and menu ideas. It’s so fun to have her on the show to talk about summer cooking, entertaining as an introvert, and more.Also on the show, Aliza and Matt discuss three things they each are interested in right now. These include: The vibes at Greenpoint’s Million Goods, Korean drinking food at Bushwick’s Orion Bar, The Old Town Bar, a legend in Manhattan, Achilles Heel has a great new chef, Carolina Gellen’s debut cookbook Pass the Plate, The Bean Book by Rancho Gordo’s Steve Sando. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.MORE FROM KATHERINE LEWIN:
Big Night, the Cult-Favorite Party Store, Now Has Its Own Cookbook [Vogue]
I Own a Store Dedicated to Dinner Parties—Here’s Hos I Fight Pre-Company Stress [Domino]
Welcome to the Shoppy Shop [NY Mag]
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Jul 5, 2024 • 1h 22min
428: Steven Rinella & Darin Bresnitz
Today on the show we welcome Steven Rinella. He’s an American outdoorsman, conversationalist, writer, and TV personality responsible for introducing the outdoor lifestyle to millions of fans. It was great talking with Steven about his latest work, the MeatEater Outdoor Cookbook, and how he likes to think about summer outdoor cooking. It’s not what you expect. Also on the show we have a great talk with Darin Bresnitz. He’s the co-host of the long-running podcast Snacky Tunes, and a great guy to know in Los Angeles. We talk about his career working in early food television, and how he’s been at the center of food and drink for nearly two decades. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. MORE FROM STEVEN RINELLA & DARIN BRESNITZ:
A Texas Hog Hunt [MeatEater]
Quarter Sheets & Wilderado [Snack Tunes]
Matt Rodbard & False Prpht [Snacky Tunes]
Los Angeles Plugs: Matt Rodbard [The Angel]
This Is TASTE 48: James Murphy & Nick Curtola [TASTE]
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