

This Is TASTE
Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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Jun 28, 2024 • 38min
424: The Makgeolli Moment Is Now with Alice Jun of Hana Makgeolli
Alice Jun is the founder and brewer at Hana Makgeolli, an artisanal Korean rice wine producer based in Brooklyn, New York. She’s dedicated her life to uplifting sool as an artisanal drink here in the US by using only organic rice, nuruk (fermentation starter), and traditional brewing methods to achieve complex flavors, and it’s so fun to have her on the show to go deep on this special, rising beverage category. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. MORE FROM HANA MAKGEOLLI
American Makgeolli [Grub Street]
Fruity, Sweet, and a Little Sour, Makgeolli Is Perfect for Springtime Sipping [Food and Wine]
Makgeolli Magnate Alice Jun Is Spreading Korean Culture, One Bottle at a Time [Saveur]
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Jun 26, 2024 • 60min
423: Fart Sandwich Artist with Dennis Lee
Dennis Lee is the iconoclastic Chicago-based food writer and newsletter daddy behind two great sends: Food Is Stupid and the Party Cut. On this episode, we have a great talk about the Chicago restaurant scene, Dennis’s unique place in food media, and how his Korean-American heritage informs so much of his work. We also dig into the Chicago hot dog and how it might just be one of the world’s most perfect foods. Also on the show, Matt, Aliza, and Clayton pay a visit to the legendary Chicago hot dog stand Superdawg for a This Is TASTE field report. What a fun, tube-steak-centric episode with a true original.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. MORE FROM DENNIS LEE:
The Olive Garden Hot Dog [Food Is Stupid]
Trot to Niles for a Deeper Cut of Korean [The Party Cut]
The Cult Recipe Newsletter About Inedible Foods [Bon Appetit]
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Jun 24, 2024 • 49min
422: Joan Nathan
How cool was it to have Joan Nathan into our studio? Joan is a longtime chronicler of Jewish food culture around the world and the author of many cookbooks on the topic, including her latest (and final) book, My Life in Recipes: Food, Family, and Memories, which she put out this spring. In this episode we talk about Joan’s long journalism career, including working at the Washington Post and the New York Times, and writing across the world of food. We also get into some of her favorite lasting recipes from Jewish households discovered through her world travels.Got a question, comment, future guest idea, fact to share, fun fact to share, less-fun fact to share? Send us a voice memo and we will listen to it, and may feature your message on the show!MORE FROM JOAN NATHAN:
What Joan Nathan Taught Me About the Power of Showing Up [NYT]
Joan Nathan is more than a Jewish cookbook writer. [LA Times]
A Warsaw Bakery Seeks to Preserve Jewish Food Where It Was Nearly Lost [NYT]
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Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 2min
421: Charleston Isn't Ordinary with Mike Lata
Mike Lata is chef and co-owner of the restaurants FIG and The Ordinary in Charleston, South Carolina, and one of the most respected voices in Southern cooking. It was really exciting to have Mike into our studio to talk about his journey to opening FIG more than 20 years ago and how he defines Southern cuisine in 2024. It’s so great catching up with Mike, and we hope you enjoy this conversation.Also on the show it's the return of three things, where Aliza and Matt talk about three things that gets them excited. On this episode: Jim Meehan's new book, The Bartender's Pantry, the new modern Korean diner Kisa in NYC, the amazing pizza at Chicago's Milly's Pizza in the Pan, the summer of granita, hop water is getting even better with St. Elmo and others, and horseshoe crab festival was incredible. Got a question, comment, future guest idea, fact to share, fun fact to share, less-fun fact to share? Send us a voice memo and we will listen to it, and may feature your message on the show!MORE FROM MIKE LATA:
Eating and Drinking Around Charleston [This Is TASTE; starts at 51:20]
If You Want to Eat Local Seafood, You Can’t Do Better Than Charleston [FW]
For Chef Mike Lata, Food Is Good. Really Good [Garden & Gun]
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Jun 19, 2024 • 1h 34min
420: We ❤️ Wisconsin Cheese: The Chefs & Cheese Sellers
Our great Wisconsin Cheese road trip continues! We caught up with iconic Wisconsin chefs Tory Miller of L’Etoile and Graze in Madison and Luke Zahm of Driftless Cafe in Viroqua about how they harness the power of Wisconsin Cheese to make distinctly local cuisine. We also talked with Ken Monteleone of the beloved Madison cheese shop Fromagination about selling craft cheese on the Capitol Square for over 17 years. And, we put our cheese-tasting skills to the test with American Cheese Society–certified cheese professional Shannon Berry. Finally, it’s three things, Wisconsin cheese edition. This very special episode is supported by Wisconsin Cheese
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Jun 17, 2024 • 1h 25min
419: We ❤️ Wisconsin Cheese: The Makers
On this very special episode of This Is TASTE, it’s a TASTE road trip! Aliza, Matt, and producer Clayton traveled all across the great state of Wisconsin to dig deep into the wide world of Wisconsin Cheese, from fresh to aged to blended with Indian spices. We visited Mark Crave and the farmstead creamery of Crave Brothers Farmstead Cheese in Waterloo, and we peeked inside the cheese caves at Roelli Cheese Haus in Shullsburg, where award-winning cheddars and alpine cheeses are aged by Master Cheesemaker Chris Roelli. Tandoori gouda? It’s as good as it sounds, and we spoke with Huma Siddiqui-Seitz of White Jasmine about creating her unforgettable cheese.Also on the show, we caught up with John Jaeggi to talk about the Wisconsin Master Cheesemaker Program and what goes into grading and judging cheese. Finally, we spoke with Rachel Kerr, senior director of brand marketing for Dairy Farmers of Wisconsin, about how Wisconsin cheese got to where it is now. This very special episode is supported by Wisconsin Cheese.
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Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 9min
418: Throwing Fits with James Harris
We welcome back into the studio James Harris, one half of Throwing Fits, a very funny podcast, Instagram account, and online community dedicated to all things menswear. TF is not just one of Matt’s favorite podcasts around, it’s a sneaky great look at the NYC food and drink scene, with James bringing big opinions about New York restaurants and nightlife culture. We hope you enjoy this very entertaining episode with one of our favorite guests around.Also on the show, Aliza and Matt are back in the studio together to talk about three things they each are into, including: Pop-ups at Callisto Farm in the Hudson Valley, Thumbody Coffee, strawberry olive oil cake from Julie Saha, Khushbu Shah's terrific book, Amrikan, collectable olive oil with Tacapae, and three great cheeses from the Hudson Valley including Cooperstown, 5 Spoke Creamery, and Jake's Gouda. Got a question, comment, future guest idea, fact to share, fun fact to share, less-fun fact to share? Send us a voice memo and we will listen to it, and may feature your message on the show!MORE FROM THROWING FITS:
Throwing Fits for Men’s Fashion [NYT]
From Nike to Nautica, Here Are the ’90s Brands that Defined the Decade [Complex]
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Jun 12, 2024 • 46min
417: It’s Kismet with Sara Kramer & Sarah Hymanson
Sara Kramer and Sarah Hymanson are the co-owners of Kismet and Kismet Rotisserie, two beloved Los Angeles restaurants that have won plenty of fans with the power of herbs, seasonal vegetables, and feta. They’ve recently released the first Kismet cookbook, and they stopped by the studio to talk about adapting their recipes for home cooks, their favorite ways to treat spring vegetables, and more.Got a question, comment, future guest idea, fact to share, fun fact to share, less-fun fact to share? Send us a voice memo and we will listen to it, and may feature your message on the show!MORE FROM KISMET:
In Los Angeles, a Hilltop Garden Party With a Tower of Crudités [T Magazine]
At Kismet, Your Culinary Destiny Might Come in the Form of Rabbit Kebabs [LA Times]
How Female Chefs Are Changing Restaurant Kitchen Culture [Vogue]
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Jun 10, 2024 • 47min
416: Chipotle Founder Steve Ells
Chipotle founder Steve Ells discusses his culinary journey from working with Jeremiah Tower to opening Chipotle. He talks about his new restaurant Kernel with a robotic arm, plant-based chicken sandwiches, and the importance of quality ingredients and employee empowerment. The podcast also covers his favorite food cities, biking experiences in Europe, and culinary expertise.

Jun 7, 2024 • 32min
415: All in on Las Vegas Food with Gina Marinelli Cooking Italian Her Way
Our Las Vegas week continues! Gina Marinelli is the chef and partner of La Strega, a coastal Italian restaurant charming Las Vegas’s Summerlin neighborhood. She’s worked in Las Vegas kitchens since 2006 for chefs like Michael Mina at Nobhill Tavern and Scott Conant at D.O.C.G. Enoteca, and now she’s doing Italian food her way. Also on the show, we visit Fontainebleau Las Vegas and check out the growing food and drink options at the new opening.Lastly, it’s our recurring three things segment, where Aliza and Matt discuss the three things they each took away from their exciting week in Las Vegas. These very special episodes of This Is TASTE are supported by Las Vegas.
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