
The Recipe with Kenji and Deb
Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this.The Recipe with Kenji and Deb is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent and listener-supported podcasts. Discover audio with vision at radiotopia.fm.
Latest episodes

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Jan 20, 2025 • 37min
Meatballs (Italian-American)
Discover the fascinating history of Italian-American meatballs and their cultural significance. Learn how these delicious creations cleverly stretch ingredients to feed larger crowds. Dive into the ideal meat blends for optimal flavor and texture, along with essential techniques for crafting the perfect bite. Explore seasoning choices that elevate the dish and the joy of cooking with kids. Celebrate the playful versatility of meatballs, with lively discussions on serving styles and creative cooking methods that invite everyone to join the meatball party!

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Jan 6, 2025 • 42min
Onion Soup
Dive into the world of onion soup, where a simple bag of onions transforms into a million-dollar dish. Discover the art of caramelizing onions and the magic of homemade beef broth to elevate flavors. Journey through quirky anecdotes of cooking in small spaces and the historical significance of onions. Explore variations, from vegetarian options to creative cheese additions. Laugh at the delightful messiness that comes with enjoying this classic soup, and uncover cooking tips that make it easier and more delicious than you imagined!

43 snips
Dec 30, 2024 • 23min
The Science of Stir-Fry with J. Kenji López-Alt [Milk Street Radio]
J. Kenji López-Alt, a culinary expert and author known for his work at Serious Eats, dives into the world of stir-frying. He shares the fascinating history and evolution of woks, alongside practical tips to achieve restaurant-quality stir-fries at home. Discover the concept of 'wok hey' and why motion is key for flavor enhancement. Kenji also explores unconventional wok techniques, like toasting salt for added smokiness, while advocating for the fusion of science and joy in cooking.

35 snips
Dec 16, 2024 • 39min
Bacon Egg & Cheese
Explore the fascinating world of breakfast sandwiches, especially the iconic bacon, egg, and cheese. Discover the nostalgic charm of New York's bodegas and their influence on sandwich culture. The discussion highlights the evolution from fast food staples to gourmet delights. Delve into the art of crafting the perfect egg sandwich, focusing on cheese selection, bread choices, and cooking techniques. With humorous anecdotes and culinary insights, you'll never overlook this breakfast classic again!

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Dec 2, 2024 • 37min
Chicken Soup
Discover the universal comfort of chicken soup, often dubbed 'Jewish penicillin' or a nostalgic family favorite. Explore how different cultures celebrate this dish, with heartfelt stories about childhood memories tied to its healing powers. Learn a simple grandma-style recipe for chicken noodle soup, emphasizing the importance of flavorful broth. Hear a lively debate on cooking methods and ingredient selection that shape the ultimate bowl of soup. Plus, enjoy anecdotes on the surprising ways marketing has influenced our noodle preferences!

Nov 25, 2024 • 8min
A Smidge of Smitten Kitchen Keepers
Celebrate a major milestone as Deb reveals her new audiobook, featuring her cherished collection of foolproof recipes. Dive into the world of relatable cooking experiences that foster connection and joy in the kitchen. Discover treasured recipes like zucchini and pesto lasagna and turkey meatloaf, each accompanied by delightful stories that highlight their significance in gatherings. Plus, learn how listener support empowers independent creators and amplifies culinary voices!

11 snips
Nov 18, 2024 • 46min
Apple Pie
Discover the secret ingredient for a can't-miss pie crust that Kenji swears by! Learn why Deb is the designated pie maker at Thanksgiving. Explore the ideal baking apple and dive into techniques for perfecting the iconic apple pie. Get tips on filling preparation and how to achieve a crispy crust. Plus, enjoy anecdotes about the joys of leftover apple pie, especially after a holiday feast. This delightful discussion brings together culinary wisdom and personal stories, making every listener eager to bake.

Nov 4, 2024 • 55min
Take a Break with Home Cooking
Demi Adejuyigbe, a comedian and writer known for his work on the Amber Ruffin Show, joins the fun to share his hilarious quarantine baking adventures. The discussion dives into the chaos of Thanksgiving preparations, exploring ways to enhance cherished dishes like green bean casserole and cranberry sauce. They also tackle the controversial sweet potato debate and offer creative vegetarian main dish ideas. With a blend of humor and practical tips, this conversation shows how cooking can bring joy, even in challenging times.

12 snips
Oct 21, 2024 • 37min
Popcorn
Dive into the world of popcorn, hailed as 'God's gift to snacking.' Discover the science behind how those hard kernels transform into fluffy delights. Enjoy tales of nostalgic movie nights and family traditions that popcorn has spiced up. Learn about the rich history of this beloved snack and explore the flavorful nuances of butter and ghee. Get tips for perfecting homemade popcorn and exciting flavor combinations that go beyond the classic! Plus, humorous anecdotes about butter stains make for a delightful listen.

Oct 7, 2024 • 45min
Baked Ziti
Dive into the playful debate on pasta shapes, where ziti takes center stage amidst heartfelt nostalgia and humorous anecdotes. The hosts share quirky opinions, tackling misconceptions, including the infamous baked ziti vs. lasagna debate. Discover innovative cooking techniques, including a unique waffle iron method, and the importance of selecting quality ricotta. Expect laughter as they reminisce about family traditions and the comforting significance of this beloved dish within Italian-American culture.