

Building With Buyers: Startup Marketing and Growth Fueled By Customers
Anna Furmanov
You're a startup founder. You think your product is amazing and feel like more people should be buying. But the road is long and slow. It feels like you're stuck. There's always one thing I ask: have you talked to your customers? This is a show about startup growth that explores the role that customers play in helping startups build to their next round. Hosted by Anna Furmanov.
Anna turns customer insights into compelling positioning and messaging, visit furmanovmarketing.com to learn more.
Anna turns customer insights into compelling positioning and messaging, visit furmanovmarketing.com to learn more.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 26min
216 - Customer Research Is Baked Into Our DNA From Day 1 (Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO at Paramark)
Pranav Piyush is Co-Founder and CEO at Paramark.
Paramark (Pre-Seed) helps CMOs and CFOs invest in marketing with confidence and predictability.
Here’s what we cover:
I see the book Alchemy on Pranav's bookshelf and it's about "chasing the magic" so have to ask what got him into it;
How do you incorporate customer research at Paramark? What are some of your goals with this research;
What have been the results;
Why is customer research important;
Challenges with customer research;
Pranav asks me his burning question.
Pranav on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/pranavp
Paramark: paramark.com
For more content, subscribe to Building With Buyers on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show.
Music by my talented daughter.
Anna on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov
Website: furmanovmarketing.com

Jan 22, 2025 • 47min
215 - The Conversations You're Not Having With Your Customers (Tiffany McNeil, Founder at Oaktown Strategy)
Hi! I'm back! I missed you. Did you miss me? Well it's a completely different show now, and I can't wait to share more with you.
Tiffany McNeil is the coolest brand, innovation, and insights exec you’ll ever meet. Tiffany and I worked together at Del Monte Foods way back in 2010 (!) on the consumer insights and strategy team, specifically consumer food innovation for baby boomers. This was the perfect conversation to kick things off.
Here’s what we cover:
Let’s first define consumer insights and strategy in B2C;
When I came over to B2B from B2C, there was no customer research, insights, or strategy that came from that work. It was super strange. So naturally, I just did the work. What is the work;
Why is consumer insights important? How does this carry over to B2B;
What’s new in consumer insights that’s shaping the industry;
What do you still find challenging with consumer research;
Tiffany asks me her burning question.
Tiffany on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-mcneil-9b1615a
Oaktown Strategy: www.oaktownstrategy.com
For more content, subscribe to Building With Buyers on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show. Music by my talented daughter.
Anna on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov
Website: furmanovmarketing.com

Jan 22, 2025 • 1min
Building With Buyers Trailer
You're a startup founder. You think your product is amazing and feel like more people should be buying.
But the road is long and slow. You've got some customers, surely you're on the right path? Why aren't deals closing faster? Why does it feel like a slog?
You've tried a bunch of stuff. Or maybe you've tried a couple things, not sure where to go from here. It feels like you're stuck.
There's always one thing I ask startup founders: Have you talked to your customers? They almost always say "heck yes! we talk to our customers all the time" but what does that actually mean?
They talk to customers during sales conversations, and during product conversations. So they're either selling, or trying to improve their product. These are not customer-focused conversations. And this lack of customer understanding is what slows growth, and makes you feel stuck.
If we can get curious about our customers (those people that trusted us and paid us!) we can uncover critical insights that will help us build to the next round.
I'm Anna Furmanov and this is Building With Buyers, a show about startup growth where I'll explore how customers help startups build to the next round.

Jun 7, 2024 • 5min
214 - BONUS: Season 4 Wrap Up!
Hey MSM listener! Anna here, host of the show. I hope you enjoyed Season 4 of Modern Startup Marketing.
I'm officially wrapped with this season, but will be back for more in the future.
In the meantime, make sure you follow me on LinkedIn where I’ll continue to share top highlights from past pod episodes, and you can sign up to get my monthly startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing frameworks and insights and cracking some jokes.
Peace and love.
For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show!
And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you:
1. Fractional Head of Marketing for early stage startups
2. Sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get marketers interested in your product
3. Sign up to get my monthly early stage startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing frameworks and insights and cracking some jokes
You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello and tell me what you're building.

Jun 3, 2024 • 43min
213 - Top AI Use Cases For Sales and Marketing Teams (Ryan Staley, Founder of Whale Boss)
Ryan Staley, Founder of Whale Boss, discusses AI tools for sales and marketing, value use cases, and concerns with AI. They also cover chat GPT, co-pilot, and leveraging AI for sales strategies. The podcast explores data analysis, prompts for insights, and AI applications in sales and marketing, emphasizing human oversight in decision-making processes involving AI tools.

May 31, 2024 • 24min
212 - BONUS: Why I'm Still Podcasting 377 Episodes Later (Sam Dunning, Breaking B2B)
Sam Dunning is the Founder at Breaking B2B and host of the Breaking B2B podcast (Top 2.5%, 377 episodes). Sam came onto my podcast to talk more about the company he's building, plus:
The Breaking B2B podcast is 377 episodes and Top 2.5%. How do you decide what to talk about and who to talk to? Do you have Seasons? How has the show changed over time? What’s been the impact on your business;
Sam has been testing outbound cold calling and got surprised by the results;
AMA: Sam asks me his burning question which I actually do answer in this episode! Wait for it...
Sam's on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/samdunning
Check out Breaking B2B: www.breakingb2b.com
For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show!
And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you:
1. fractional head of marketing for early stage startups >> www.furmanovmarketing.com
2. sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> podcast.furmanovmarketing.com
3. sign up to get my monthly early stage startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes
You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello and tell me what you're building >> www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov

May 27, 2024 • 52min
211 - Top Deadly B2B Startup Marketing Sins
Hope you're having a meaningful Memorial Day if you're in the US.
Sam Dunning (Founder at Breaking B2B) asked me to come onto his podcast "Breaking B2B" via a live session where we talk about the top deadly B2B startup marketing sins, how to avoid them, practical advice you can use right away, and we answer an audience question.
Check out more of Breaking B2B: www.breakingb2b.com
Here's the full video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRBg1qG3XjI
For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show!
And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you:
1. fractional head of marketing for early stage startups >> www.furmanovmarketing.com
2. sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> podcast.furmanovmarketing.com
3. sign up to get my monthly early stage startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes
You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello and tell me what you're building >> www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov

May 24, 2024 • 24min
210 - BONUS: The Goal Of Marketing Is To Make Sales Easier, But Also Way More
For this BONUS episode I brought on a friend. Friend episodes are great because you've talked to this person so many times and they just hit different. Come hang out with us.
Meredith Hein is the Founder of Unicorn Content & Growth Marketing where she works with growth stage companies, she also went to Kellogg.
Here’s what we cover:
On writing books for her clients and what books accomplish;
Udi Ledergor (Gong) once said "marketing’s goal is to make sales easier” and that still makes me cringe. What is the goal of marketing, and why;
Content creation when you’re creating a new category - what’s your biggest advice;
AMA: Meredith asks me her burning question which I answer in this episode.
You can find Meredith on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/heinmeredith
Check out her website: www.growwithunicorn.com
For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show!
And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you:
1. fractional head of marketing for early stage startups >> www.furmanovmarketing.com
2. sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> podcast.furmanovmarketing.com
3. sign up to get my monthly early stage startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes
You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello and tell me what you're building >> www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov

5 snips
May 20, 2024 • 51min
209 - The Blog Isn't King Anymore And Why You Need An Owned Media Portfolio (Ian Faison, Founder of Caspian Studios)
Ian Faison, the CEO and Founder of Caspian Studios, dives into the shifting landscape of content marketing. He discusses the move away from outdated strategies towards an Owned Media Portfolio, emphasizing co-creation and diverse formats. Faison shares insights on crafting engaging podcasts and ambitious storytelling projects, or 'moonshots'. He also explores the importance of serialized content in B2B marketing and how to measure ROI effectively, plus how startups can leverage these innovative strategies for greater audience engagement.

May 13, 2024 • 6min
208 - Creative Marketing Ideas That Are So Worth Testing Right Now
In the last episode, Drew Brucker asked me “What are some creative marketing ideas that you or someone on the show has shared that are 100% worth experimenting with?” Drew, you’re in luck because I focused on creativity in Season 3 of the podcast and then I wrote a whole article called “36 Startups Share Their Top Creative Marketing Ideas” so in this episode I pull out those I believe startups should test.
For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show!
And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you:
1. fractional head of marketing for early stage startups >> www.furmanovmarketing.com
2. sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> podcast.furmanovmarketing.com
3. sign up to get my monthly early stage startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes
You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello >> www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov