

The Human Side of Money
Brendan Frazier
Are you ready to delve into the emotional side of money, enhance your practice, and forge deeper connections with your clients? The Human Side of Money Podcast offers actionable ideas and strategies to empower financial advisors with the skills needed to excel in understanding the behavioral aspects of finance. Join Chief Behavioral Officer Brendan Frazier as he shares invaluable insights, tips and strategies. Subscribe now to elevate your practice and client interactions!
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May 24, 2023 • 1h 29min
84: A Three-Step Guide To Transform Your Relationship With Money with Bari Tessler
When financial advisors meet with clients, it’s easy to focus solely on the numbers and neglect the feelings they elicit.
It’s easy to focus on dollars at the expense of emotions. But every single client you work with has a relationship with money that extends beyond data, numbers, and dollar signs.
But, it becomes evident when you’re dealing with the retiree who simply won’t spend their money despite having more than they could ever need.
They need help blending the financial and emotional components of money. Fortunately, Bari Tessler is a highly-regarded financial therapist. And, she’s developed a three-step framework to help clients transform their relationship with money.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to better approach your finances using a “Money Date”
What she learned from hyperventilating at the car dealership
3 Levels of “Money Maps” that she uses instead of budgeting
The power of renaming cash flow categories in alignment with values
How understanding your body improves your relationship with money
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

May 17, 2023 • 43min
83: 3 Proven Techniques To Enhance Your Questions And Elevate Your Conversations
Asking great questions is a superpower for financial advisors.
When done right, asking great questions establishes likeability, accelerates trust, and uncovers personal, sensitive information.
Three things that are absolutely critical to perform your job at the highest level. But, it’s not just about asking more questions. It’s about knowing how to ask great questions that get great answers.
It’s about knowing the techniques that enhance your questions and elevate your conversations with both clients and prospects.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
The research that confirms the power of questions
The “3E” questions for creating conversational flow
Using follow-up questions to open the floodgates of the conversation
How to structure your questions to receive better responses
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

May 10, 2023 • 1h 20min
82: A Framework To Facilitate Conversation And Connection Throughout The Planning Process with Josh Gilliam (Part II)
In 2005, Josh Gilliam set out to research, read, and learn everything he could about behavioral finance, psychology, and communication.
He was seeking to master the human side of advice.
18 years later, he admits it’s still a work in progress. But, he took what he learned and created the [Fi] Life Framework. A framework he uses to facilitate better conversations and connections with clients and prospects.
We discuss:
The [Fi] Self Profile: A tool for learning more about a client’s financial beliefs and history
How helping a client learn about their past created a relationship-altering conversation
The [Fi] Life Big Decision App: A tool to guide clients toward making better decisions
Why the human side of advice will provide a natural boost to client testimonials
Why it’s important to have clients document their decision-making processes
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Apr 26, 2023 • 1h 32min
81: A Framework For Facilitating Conversation And Connection Throughout The Planning Process with Josh Gilliam (Part I)
In 2005, Josh Gilliam set out to research, read, and learn everything he could about behavioral finance, psychology, and communication.
He was seeking to master the human side of advice.
18 years later, he admits it’s still a work in progress. But, he took what he learned and created the [Fi] Life Framework. A framework he uses to facilitate better conversations and connections with clients and prospects.
We discuss:
The #1 risk in not adopting the human side
The tool he uses to help clients visualize goals, transitions, and milestones
Why Josh found himself unfulfilled at the moment most advisors dream about
Why he starts conversations around how someone feels rather than what they have
The story of how life planning cost him a $10 million client (and why it didn’t faze him)
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Apr 21, 2023 • 28min
80: The Golden Circle of Financial Advice: Understanding The Connection Between Goals & Values
If you work with people and their money to fund something now or in the future, it’s absolutely crucial that you understand the dynamic between goals and values.
Once you can move beyond goals and understand what’s truly important to the person you’re meeting with, everything changes. In fact, once you embrace and internalize this dynamic, research shows it creates emotionally connected clients that pay more, refer more, follow-through, and consolidate assets.
In this episode, I’ll break down what the research says about emotionally connected clients and use the golden circle as a method for understanding how to talk with clients and prospects about what’s truly important to them.
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Apr 12, 2023 • 1h 39min
79: Behavioral Finance Principles That Actually Improve Financial Behavior with Barry Ritholtz
As behavioral finance has moved into the mainstream, one thing has become clear.
It’s great to know there’s a way to explain a client’s sub-optimal behavior. But, it’s an entirely different challenge to know what to do about it.
In other words, behavioral finance has done a great job of providing advisors with a list of diagnoses: Overconfidence, anchoring, Dunning-Kreuger
Barry Ritholtz has been on the cutting edge of behavioral finance for years. In this episode, he peels back the curtain to share the specific ways that Ritholtz Wealth Management focuses on improving client behavior.
We discuss:
Why steer clear of market forecasts and focus instead on probabilities
A question to ask clients who believe everything they hear on TV
Effectively setting expectations in the midst of uncertainty
How they minimize bias by naming their portfolios
The “Milestone Rewards” program that discounts fees for optimal behavior
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Mar 27, 2023 • 1h 42min
78: The Art of Asking Great Questions That Get Great Answers with Warren Berger
Asking great questions is a superpower for financial advisors.
But, it’s not enough to simply ask questions. The types of questions, the timing of questions, and the tone of questions all matter. In other words, there’s an art to asking great questions.
Fortunately, Warren Berger is a Questionologist and the world’s foremost authority on questions. He is here to walk us through the art of asking great questions that get great answers from both clients and prospects.
In this episode, we discuss:
How to ask questions to get someone to open up
The engine that drives good questioning
What actors can teach us about cultivating curiosity
How to order questions for conversational flow
Questions you ask every day that fail to create a connection
Using questions to convince clients your idea is their idea
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Mar 22, 2023 • 37min
77: Best Questions For Each Step Of The Client Journey
Every advisor always wants to know what questions to ask.
But, more important than WHAT you ask is WHEN you ask it. A great question asked at the wrong time is no longer a great question.
In this episode, we’ll go through six different steps of the client journey and arm you with three questions to use at each stage:
Intro Call
Discovery Meeting
Onboarding
Implementation/Recommendations
Review Meetings
Every Conversation
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Mar 15, 2023 • 1h 50min
76: Emotionally-Compelling Conversations To Fast-Track Trust And Likability with Deirdre Van Nest
We all know that human beings buy on emotion and justify with logic.
Yet, when meeting with a prospect, the majority of advisors default to leading with logic rather than emotion.
The success of your prospect meeting hinges on your ability to communicate in a way that takes them out of their heads and into their hearts.
Once you do that, you can create a level of trust in 3 minutes that often takes 3 years.
Fortunately, Deirdre Van Nest works with advisors on the keys to communicating in an emotionally compelling way to fast-track trust and likability in the first meeting.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Keys to making yourself relatable in a first meeting
Why the purpose of a prospect meeting shouldn’t be determining fit
A superpower to get prospects to decide faster
Getting someone to open up by “flipping the script”
The importance of a “Why” story to explain what you do
The magical question to ask at the beginning of the meeting
To sign up for Brendan’s monthly newsletter focused on the human side of advice → Click Here
Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Mar 2, 2023 • 1h 45min
75: Understanding The Brain To Ignite Motivation Within Clients And Prospects With Ted Klontz
Financial advice requires working with money and people.
Working with money is the easy part. You need a calculator and some decent math skills.
Working with people is the hard part. You need an understanding of what goes on in their brain.
Ted Klontz says, “The more you understand how the brain works, the more effective you’ll be working with people.” In this episode, he reveals what advisors need to know about the brain in order to create motivation and connections with clients and prospects.
We discuss:
How to effectively communicate to the decision-making part of the brain
Why palm trees are better than graphs for improving financial behavior
What car dealers and ice cream stores teach us about prospect conversations
A must-ask question for every prospect coming from a previous advisor
Three keys to developing exquisite listening skills
Why 8 of 10 people who come to you aren’t actually ready for advice
To sign up for Brendan’s monthly newsletter focused on the human side of advice → Click Here
Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier