

The Human Side of Money
Brendan Frazier
Are you ready to delve into the emotional side of money, enhance your practice, and forge deeper connections with your clients? The Human Side of Money Podcast offers actionable ideas and strategies to empower financial advisors with the skills needed to excel in understanding the behavioral aspects of finance. Join Chief Behavioral Officer Brendan Frazier as he shares invaluable insights, tips and strategies. Subscribe now to elevate your practice and client interactions!
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Sep 27, 2023 • 1h 35min
95: Navigating The Dynamics Of Working With Couples And Money with Ashley Quamme
Every advisor remembers sitting in a meeting with a couple where one person is engaged and the other hasn’t said a word.
Or the meeting with the couple whose goals aren’t aligned.
While working with couples certainly has its challenges, it’s also an opportunity for advisors to help couples align and thrive financially. But, doing so requires knowing the skills you need to navigate the dynamics of working with couples and money.
Fortunately, Ashley Quamme specializes in this area and is going to crack the code to get both partners engaged and on the same page so they can thrive together financially.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Her favorite question to help couples get “unstuck”
How to use “Relationship Maps” when working with couples
How to set the expectations for both partners to talk and engage
The 3 factors that contribute to couples not on the same page with their goals
Questions to ask couples to assess their financial relationship (without being intrusive)
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The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Sep 14, 2023 • 1h 32min
94: Why Clients Actually Hire & Fire Their Financial Advisors with Samantha Lamas and Danielle Labotka
If you want to convert more prospects into life-long clients…
You need to know the answer to two questions: Why do people hire a financial advisor? Why do people fire their financial advisor?
They just might be the two most important questions for any advisory business.
Fortunately, Samantha Lamas and Danielle Labotka did the research to get the answer to those two questions. And, what they learned will forever transform the way advisors approach client acquisition and client retention.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to create digital content that makes an emotional connection
The connection between listening skills and higher client retention
The most commonly cited reasons for both hiring and firing an advisor
The most commonly listed emotional reasons driving hiring and firing decisions
The “Value Prop Makeover”: 3 steps to effectively communicate your emotional value
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Aug 30, 2023 • 1h 33min
93: The Psychology of Retirement Spending and Prioritizing Peace of Mind with Christine Benz
Christine Benz has been dispensing financial planning knowledge and impacting the lives of people around the world for decades.
She’s written hundreds of articles for Morningstar on practical financial planning advice. In fact, she’s one of the best out there. But there are 3 articles that stick out from the rest.
They deviated from her usual style laying out step-by-step technical knowledge and ventured into the field of psychology and emotions.
So, we talked with Christine about those three articles.
She explains the psychology of retirement spending, why peace of mind is the ultimate luxury good, and the biggest money mistake she’s ever made.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why peace of mind is her ultimate luxury good
The importance of celebrating financial milestones
The psychological advantage of prioritizing short-term goals
Using a “Retirement Policy Statement” to get retirees to spend money
The biggest money mistake she’s ever made (and the emotional reason for it)
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

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Aug 16, 2023 • 1h 33min
92: Systems That Scale Human-To-Human Connection Throughout An Advisory Business with Libby Greiwe
Libby Greiwe, founder of The Efficient Advisor and a coach for financial advisors, shares insights on balancing efficiency with genuine human connection. She discusses her journey from a 'guru' to a 'sherpa,' emphasizing the importance of understanding client emotions. Libby elaborates on her 'Ideal Client Avatar' approach, enhancing communication, and shares strategies to make every client feel special. Through personal anecdotes, she highlights the art of listening and the power of storytelling as key elements in building trust and deepening relationships in the advisory business.

Aug 10, 2023 • 26min
91: The Email That Wins Clients And Their Trust
There’s an email you can send that actually:
1) Improves conversion ratios
2) Improves connection and receives responses like “You get me.”
In other words, it wins clients AND their trust. Thus, it’s the most important email you’ll ever send.
We discuss:
The psychology behind why these emails are so powerful
The key things to include when sending a recap email
Why advisors claim these emails are essential to converting prospects
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Aug 2, 2023 • 1h 42min
90: Building A Service Model To Help Clients Align Money & Purpose with Justin Castelli
After 18+ years in the industry, Justin Castelli decided to shift his business model away from traditional financial planning.
Here’s his quote to explain why:
“My clients were planning for the life they were told to live. Not the life they wanted to live.”
Too often, our client’s life and money decisions are influenced by what society tells them, what their family did, the pursuit of achievement, and so on…
But what if you could guide clients toward crafting a life they actually want to live?
That’s exactly why Justin Castelli decided to evolve his business model. The traditional financial planning model didn’t suffice. He shares with us the personal journey that led to this decision and how he plans to do it with new and existing clients.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Questions that uncover passion and purpose
How this approach forever changed a client’s life
Why most people don’t live the life they want to live
Two exercises he suggests for clients to uncover their authentic life
How he harnesses regret to help clients get clarity on what’s important
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Jul 19, 2023 • 1h 50min
89: How Financial Empathy And Data Visualization Influence Client Behavior with Dr. Michael Thomas
“Behavioral Coaching” continues to emerge as the primary source of value in a relationship between an advisor and client.
Yet, most advisors have never learned the skill set required to actually influence and change a client’s behavior for the better. It starts by first understanding the forces that influence client behavior both positively and negatively. To learn what works and what doesn’t.
Fortunately, Dr. Michael G. Thomas has done extensive research on two forces that often go overlooked: Financial empathy and data visualization. He’ll explain just how much power these two forces carry and how he uses them to influence client behavior for the better.
We discuss:
The “Zoom Out/Zoom In” approach he uses to identify emotional barriers
Why confidence and clarity are crucial for changing client behavior
The big mistake advisors make that demotivates clients
What Robinhood teaches us about the power of data visualization
His approach to budgets that avoids anxiety and overwhelm
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Jul 14, 2023 • 22min
88: The Power of Mirroring Clients’ Words
There’s one communication technique in the skill set of FBI hostage negotiators that stands above the rest.
One they describe as being the closest you’ll get to a jedi mind trick.
It’s called “mirroring”.
Here’s what it does in conversation: Facilitates bonding and trust, creates connection and empathy, buys you time to regroup your thoughts, and gets someone to open up (and keeps them talking). So, how can you use this in conversations with prospects and clients?
We discuss:
The biological and psychological reasons that mirroring is so powerful
Why servers who mirrored customer’s orders got higher tips
Two ways to start mirroring words with prospects and clients
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Jul 5, 2023 • 1h 49min
87: Incorporating The Human Element Throughout The Planning Process with Hannah Moore
The financial advice industry does an outstanding job of training and developing technical knowledge.
The industry is full of advisors and planners who can sit down at a computer and calculate the time value of money with the best of them. But, financial planning done right isn’t just about technical answers. It’s about how those answers intersect with the person’s life.
In this episode, Hannah gives us a look at how she incorporates the human element into her planning process so that the technical knowledge aligns with the client’s life.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
How (and why) she changed her approach to the prospect process
How to respond when a client says “Tell me what to do!”
The power of the values exercises she takes clients through
The “Budgeting Blocks” exercise to align values and spending
Why she believes the industry is training the human out of the professional
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Resources:
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 13min
86: A Collection of Wisdom To Conduct The Ultimate Intro Meeting
The intro meeting is the lifeblood of an advisory business.
That 30-60 minute window with a complete stranger is either the most expensive or the most profitable activity you’ll ever engage in.
Yet, I kept hearing advisors complain about these meetings. They would say things like: “I never like the way I feel during those meetings” or “There has to be a better way!”
Since this show began, we’ve had some of the industry’s top experts join us to talk about meeting with prospects, intro meetings, communication strategies, etc.
So, I went back and listened to those conversations and compiled the best clips into this episode. It’s a collection of the best insights and wisdom over the last three years of this show to help you conduct the ultimate intro meeting.
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Resources:
Click here to check out “The Ultimate Intro Meeting.”
The featured partner for this episode is Knudge, an automated system to help clients actually follow through on their tasks and reach their financial goals
Connect with Brendan Frazier:
RFG Advisory
LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier
X:@jbrendanfrazier