The Marketing Architects

Less than half of ads are correctly attributed to the right brand after viewing. And it takes two to three years of consistent investment before a brand asset truly feels like it belongs to you.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob explore what it actually means to build distinctive brand assets. They dig into Mark Ritson's latest column for Marketing Week, break down the research on what makes assets memorable, and share why most marketers quit way too soon. Plus, test your own knowledge with a distinctive assets quiz.Topics covered: [01:00] What distinctiveness actually means for your brand[04:00] Why creativity and distinctiveness aren't the same thing[09:00] Why you need seven brand cues to boost recall to 100%[14:00] Brands that nailed distinctiveness over decades[18:00] Balancing creative freshness with brand consistency[22:00] How to measure if your assets are truly distinctive  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: 2025 The Drum Article: https://www.thedrum.com/news/2025/10/06/mark-ritson-we-know-what-distinctive-marketing-looks-now-let-s-agree-what-call-it Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Welcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We’re breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use.In this episode, Elena and Rob explore how consumer response to advertising behaves more like a phase transition than a smooth curve. They discuss saturation points, tipping points, and why some channels scale differently than others.Topics covered:   [01:00] "Symmetry Scaling Laws and Phase Transitions in Consumer Advertising Response"[03:00] Three parameters: marketing effectiveness, response sensitivity, and behavioral sensitivity[04:00] Which parameter matters most for TV?[05:00] Testing against traditional models[06:00] Network effects and audience clustering  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: Marín, J. (2024). Symmetries, scaling laws and phase transitions in consumer advertising response [Preprint]. arXiv. https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2404.02175   Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

OpenAI just launched its first global brand campaign. And instead of using algorithms or AI-driven stunts, they turned to the most old-school playbook of all: TV ads. Shot on film. With human directors. Real actors. 30-second spots about everyday moments tied back to ChatGPT.This episode, Elena and Rob break down OpenAI's new TV campaign and what it reveals about the enduring power of brand in an AI-driven world. They discuss why even the most advanced tech companies still need emotional storytelling and broad reach to grow, how AI is already transforming marketing workflows, and what separates strong brand strategy from ineffective branding. Plus, hear their takes on which brands are crushing it today.Topics covered: [02:00] Breaking down OpenAI's new TV ads[10:00] Why tech companies struggle with branding and naming[15:00] Ways AI is already giving marketers superpowers[20:00] Why brand will become even more important as AI advances[28:00] Google's brand strategy and compelling storytelling[34:00] How to keep your brand strong in the age of AI  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: 2025 The Drum Article:https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2025/09/30/mark-ritson-chatgpt-s-new-ads-show-even-ai-can-t-deny-the-brand-building-power-tv Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Welcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We’re breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob explore why Americans watch over 40 hours of TV and video weekly. They examine how viewing habits evolved from 1992 to 2017, revealing that despite digital disruptions, total viewing time keeps growing—and 92% still happens on TV sets, not phones. Topics covered:   [01:00] "Why Do People Watch So Much Television and Video? Implications for the Future of Viewing and Advertising"[02:00] Average viewing climbed from 35 to 41 hours weekly[04:00] Live TV dropped to 74%, but TV sets dominate[06:00] EEG studies reveal TV's relaxation effect[08:00] Digital video now rivals traditional TV viewing[10:00] Why entertainment trumps complicated messaging  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: Wilbur, Kenneth C. 2023. “Why Do People Watch So Much Television and Video? Implications for the Future of Viewing and Advertising.” Journal of Advertising Research 63, no. 1: 16–31. https://doi.org/10.2501/JAR-2023-003   Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Most digital marketers treat brand building like performance marketing. They run two-day tests, allocate 0.2% of budget, or recycle performance creative for reach campaigns. It fails every time.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Kevin Goodwin, SVP of Strategy and Growth at New Engen. Kevin shares how his agency evolved from pure performance marketing to embracing effectiveness principles, why digital gets unfairly dismissed by brand marketers, and the specific ways marketers sabotage their own digital brand-building efforts.Topics covered: [00:04] Kevin's journey from finance to digital marketing at Zulily[00:08] How iOS 14 and rising interest rates forced New Engen to evolve[00:13] Why measurement is critical for digital brand building[00:16] What digital marketers get wrong about brand campaigns[00:20] Why marketers should challenge platforms for better brand-building tools[00:23] Preparing for the death of the click in an AI-driven world  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources:  2025 Tom Roach Article: https://thetomroach.com/2025/01/12/brand-building-in-the-platforms/ Kevin Goodwin’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-goodwin-12b4243a/Kevin’s Substack: https://kevingoodwin.substack.com/aboutNew Engen Website: https://newengen.com/ Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Delve into the intriguing phenomenon of choice overload, where too many options can leave consumers paralyzed. Discover how task difficulty and preference uncertainty contribute to this dilemma, along with the surprising notion that product structure often matters more than sheer quantity. Learn why curated stores can outperform massive malls and enjoy a fun analogy comparing browsing an ice cream shop versus making quick purchases. The discussion highlights the balance between enjoyment and efficiency in shopping.

Nielsen finds radio paired with TV can boost ROI by 20%. Podcast ads deliver 70% recall and drive purchase action for 22% of listeners immediately after hearing an ad.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob explore why audio is such a powerful marketing tool. They share how Marketing Architects' roots in radio shaped their advertising philosophy, explain why sound creates lasting memories and emotional connections, and discuss the future of audio from smart speakers to AI-driven experiences.Topics covered: [03:00] How early radio work shaped Marketing Architects' approach[07:00] Campaign that proved the power of testimonials in audio[13:00] Four ways brands can use audio to build distinctive assets[17:00] Brands getting sonic branding right today[22:00] Advantages and disadvantages of podcast advertising[27:00] Where audio advertising is heading in the next five to ten years  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: WARC Study: https://www.warc.com/content/paywall/article/bestprac/what-we-know-about-radio-and-audio-effectiveness/en-GB/109845?2025 eMarketer Article: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-ads-turn-listener-attention-measurable-action Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Welcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We’re breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use.In this episode, Elena and Rob explore how lifestyle brands compete for limited consumer self-expression. Once people express themselves through one brand, their appetite for additional identity-driven brands declines.Topics covered:   [01:00] "Competing for Consumer Identity Limits to Self-Expression and the Perils of Lifestyle Branding"[02:00] Identity saturation and its effect on brand preference[03:00] Why thinking about favorite brands reduces enthusiasm for new ones[04:00] Symbolic versus functional brands[06:00] What happens when your unique brand becomes mainstream[07:00] Reversing identity saturation through uniqueness threats  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: Chernev, A., Hamilton, R., & Gal, D. (2011). Competing for consumer identity: Limits to self-expression and the perils of lifestyle branding. Journal of Marketing, 75(3), 66–82. https://doi.org/10.1509/jmkg.75.3.66  Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Performance marketing has crowded out brand building. One executive even admitted, "We're great at performance marketing, but our brand sucks." Nike learned this the hard way when they pivoted too hard toward performance and lost what made them famous.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob tackle marketing's most persistent divide: brand versus performance. They explore why organizations still separate these teams despite evidence they work better together, how TV bridges both goals, and practical ways to measure success across the funnel. Plus, hear why emotional storytelling doesn't mean sacrificing sales activation.Topics covered: [01:00] Why performance marketing has taken over budgets[03:00] The problem with prioritizing what's easy to measure[11:00] Developing creative that drives both brand and sales[14:00] Why TV belongs in both the brand and performance buckets[17:00] Measuring TV's impact across short-term and long-term goals[20:00] How AI is transforming TV into a flexible, digital-like channel  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: 2023 Harvard Business Review Article: https://hbr.org/2023/05/how-brand-building-and-performance-marketing-can-work-together2024 WARC Article: https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/opinion/mark-ritson-takes-on-the-brand-performance-debate/en-gb/6874 2025 Marketing Architects and WARC report: https://www.marketingarchitects.com/FullFunnelGet more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Welcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We’re breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob explore why underdog brand stories resonate with consumers and drive purchase intent. They reveal how combining disadvantage with determination creates powerful brand connection, especially when purchases feel personal. Topics covered:   [01:00] "The Underdog Effect: The Marketing of Disadvantage and Determination through Brand Biography"[02:00] What makes an underdog brand biography work[03:00] Four studies testing underdog brand performance[05:00] Cultural differences in underdog appeal[06:00] Why identity matters in underdog branding[08:00] When underdog stories don't work as well To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter  Resources: Paharia, N., Keinan, A., Avery, J., & Schor, J. B. (2011). The underdog effect: The marketing of disadvantage and determination through brand biography. Journal of Consumer Research, 37(5), 775–790. https://doi.org/10.1086/656219  Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.