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Feb 3, 2023 • 58min

92: Closed Channels of Communication & its Impact on Some LDS Members

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Analysis of E. Hamilton “Why a Church? [Part I of II]In this special episode Valerie and Nathan respond to the recent address given by Elder Hamilton titled "Why a Church".  This episode attempts to acknowledge many potentially hurtful or harmful "take aways" that many might have experienced who are deeply committed to following Jesus Christ and who are also trying to discern if there is a place for them to worship in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as complex thinkers and committed seekers of systematic and spiritual truth.Some "take aways" [which may not be intended but nonetheless may still have been experienced] include:1)  Stay silent although in legitimate pain that is connected to membership in this church2) there is no channel for conversation, accountability, or healing between wounded members and top governing individuals3) there is no place for those who feel called to bless this organization through respectful public education, advocacy, and other efforts to invite growth, change, and an increase in love...This episode is intended to be a loving and direct response to what many members in and around the LDS church are feeling was communicated.  Healthy relationships do not demand silence or non-questioning compliance and call these demands trust, faith, and obedience. Healthy relationship in every context invites dialogue, openness, accountability, and the embodiment of true common consent.  As these attributes are practiced at all levels of the institution, our religious system may begin to heal through love.Link to the speechWhy a Church? by Kevin S. Hamilton Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 30, 2023 • 55min

91: Ways to Actively Protect & Support our Queer Youth at Church

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: An Exploration of Queer Mormon Theology [Part III of III]In this final episode in this series honoring Blaire Ostler [scholar, author, and warrior at the complex intersection of the Mormon and Queer worlds], Val and Nathan walk through 15 suggestions given by Blaire on how we can do a better job educating ourselves and those around us on queer issues so that our queer children and adolescents feel seen, safer, and valued.Please share this entire series with those around you who may not understand the psychological costs exacted upon our own loved ones due to current Queer-phobic theology. Helping others see this issues with new eyes might protect a precious life. Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 27, 2023 • 59min

90: The Sacred Queerness of Dawn, Dusk, & Even Jesus w/ Blair Ostler

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: An Exploration of Queer Mormon Theology [Part II of III]Join Valerie and author, theologian, and scholar Blaire Ostler as they tackle the beauty of speculative theology through their analysis of Blaire’s book “Queer Mormon Theology”. In this bold and beautiful book, Blaire invites her readers to consider multiple traditional Mormon-specific beliefs through a queer lens, showing us how a robust theology is ALWAYS inviting of study, questioning, and re-evaluation to become more reflective of the Savior we profess to worship. Blaire Maintains through multiple ideas and examples that we as disciplines of Jesus Christ are not only invited to widen our theological views, but encouraged to do so, actively participating in the democratic process of common consent. Listen to this beautiful conversation and find yourself a copy of Queer Mormon Theology.*** Dialogue Podcasting Network Podcast/episode referenced in this episode: “The Foyer”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-foyer/id1589860799?i=1000550522621  Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 23, 2023 • 57min

89: A Queer Mormon’s Walk through the Valley of the Shadow w/ Blair Ostler

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: An Exploration of Queer Mormon Theology [Part I of III]In this beautiful episode, Blaire Ostler joins Valerie in an autobiographical conversation about her painful and dynamic hero’s journey reconciling within herself her queerness and her Mormon-ness, finding for herself that she could not shun either. This conversation covers the gradual unfolding of her queer identity and the pain she went through both within her body and between herself and her creators. She shares deep grief, “aha” moments, self hating moments, and moments of profound and growing self love and self acceptance. She emphasizes that this journey is HERS and that other queer people or Mormon people have the right to do their lives differently but proudly and boldly claims her own right to the path that she has chosen to walk at the intersection of two frequently unkind-to-each-other identities. Trigger Warning: this episode speaks of suicide ideation. Podcast referenced in this episode: The Foyer: LGBTQ Mormon History and Theology Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 20, 2023 • 38min

88: God is So Tired of Being an Old White Guy

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Do I Stay Christian? Book Analysis [Part V of V]In each of these episodes, Val and Nathan go through McLaren’s 10 compelling reasons to LEAVE institutionalized Christianity and 10 compelling reasons to STAY. In this episode the two reasons discussed to LEAVE are as follows:    9) Because of its tendency to constrict intellectualism [please jump over to episode 79 of this podcast for a deep dive into the damage done due to constrictive intellectualism and many cognitive biases common to underdeveloped Christian thinking] and    10) Because Christianity is “SHRINKLING” [shrinking+wrinkling].The two final reasons discussed in this episode to stay Christian are:    9) To Free God from the dangerous image as the angry old white guy full of judgement and wrath, and    10) Because of Fermi’s Paradox and the Great Filter [yep…you’ll clearly need to tune in to have the first clue about what he means here!!]Val and Nathan respect McLaren’s straightforward, honest look at our Christian history and share in his trust that each of us is wise enough to look truth straight in the eye in order to forge our own path towards health and wholeness.Book referenced in this episode⁠Do I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, by Brian D. McLaren⁠Faith After Doubt: Why Your Beliefs Stopped Working and What to Do About It, by Brian D. McLarenSunstone Symposium address referenced in this episode [Val’s favorite symposium address of all time]: Sunstone Magazine Podcast: E130: Own Your Religion, by Greg Prince Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 16, 2023 • 37min

87: On Superiority Complexes & Christian Nationalism

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Do I Stay Christian? Book Analysis [Part VI of V]Welcome to part IV of our exploration of Brian McLaren’s book “Do I Stay Christian”. In each of these episodes, Val and Nathan go through McLaren’s 10 compelling reasons to LEAVE institutionalized Christianity and 10 compelling reasons to STAY.In this episode the two reasons discussed to LEAVE are as follows: 7) Because Christianity is STUCK due to its “belief policing” and its accompanying resistance to scientific advancements that might push up against traditional religious ideas, and 8) Because Christianity as a religious system has arguably failed in its prime purpose: to transform people into loving, caring human beings.Reasons to stay in this episode are as follows: 7) Leaving complex and messy systems is arguably buying into a similar superiority complex that often draws people into Christianity in the first place, and 8) Christianity is both getting better and it is getting worse. Better?  The internet’s built-in ability to demand openness and accountability. Worse? Two words: Christian NationalismVal and Nathan respect McLaren’s straightforward, honest look at our Christian history and share in his trust that each of us is wise enough to look truth straight in the eye in order to forge our own path towards spiritual health and wholeness.Book referenced in this episodeDo I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, by Brian D. McLarenThe Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, by D. Michael Quinn Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 13, 2023 • 43min

86: On the Power of Money & Confronting the Cult of Innocence

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Do I Stay Christian? Book Analysis [Part III of V]In each of these episodes, Val and Nathan go through McLaren’s 10 compelling reasons to LEAVE institutionalized Christianity and 10 compelling reasons to STAY.In this episode the two reasons discussed to LEAVE are as follows: 5) Because of Christianity's "real" master...MONEY.  In this section Nathan and Val break down both how this issue applies to both "big" Christianity and to our our faith tradition's specific complex and problematic relationship with money, and 6) Because of serious harm done due to white male patriarchy.The two viable reasons to STAY in institutional Christianity discussed in this episode are: 5) Due to Christianity's legendary founder.  This section focuses both on expanding our understanding of the difference between scriptural literalism and scriptural literary value. 6) because innocence is an addiction and solidarity is the cure.What McLaren means by this is that those who leave Christianity are enjoying the luxury of privilege.  Listen in to capture what he means by this and decide for yourself. Books referenced in this episodeDo I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, by Brian D. McLaren⁠⁠The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power,⁠⁠ by D. Michael Quinn Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 9, 2023 • 48min

85: On Colonization, Company Men, & Christianity as an Infant Religion

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Do I Stay Christian? Book Analysis [Part II of V]In each of these episodes, Val and Nathan go through McLaren’s 10 compelling reasons to LEAVE institutionalized Christianity and 10 compelling reasons to STAY.In this episode the two reasons discussed to LEAVE are as follows: 3) Because of the huge world-wide death toll and life toll due to Christian imperialism/ colonization, and 4) Because of perpetual issues with loyal Christian “company men” who value loyalty to institution over loyalty to those whom they are serving who come to worship God and find healing community.The two viable reasons to STAY in institutional Christianity discussed in this episode are: 3) Because those who value the rhythms of community worship will find that there is no human-run institution that will be exempt of the complexities of human-run institutions, and 4) Because when speaking relative to the creation of the universe, Christianity is in its infancy and very young things are very underdeveloped by necessity.Val and Nathan respect McLaren’s straightforward, honest look at our Christian history and share in his trust that each of us is wise enough to look truth straight in the eye in order to forge our own path towards spiritual health and wholeness.Books referenced in this episode:Do I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, by Brian D. McLarenThe Creation of Patriarchy, by Gerta Lerner Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 6, 2023 • 39min

84: Christianity: Reasons to Stay & Reasons to Leave

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Do I Stay Christian? Book Analysis [Part I of V]This is part one of a five part series analyzing Brian McLaren’s book "Do I Stay Christian”.In each of the next 5 episodes, Val and Nathan go through McLaren’s 10 compelling reasons to LEAVE institutionalized Christianity and 10 compelling reasons to STAY.In this episode the first two reasons to LEAVE are as follows:1) Because of the brutal treatment of Jewish people by Christians throughout Christianity’s history, and2) Because of Christianity’s long history of brutality to their own brave dissenters who have seen institutional problems of blindness, ignorance, and corruption have called them out, and have been physically or psychologically punished.The two viable reasons to STAY in institutional Christianity discussed in this episode are:1) Because leaving Christianity hurts those valiantly trying to heal systemic problems [and those staying comprise some of the bravest, noblest badasses you can find anywhere😉] and2) because there are more options than to stay compliantly or leave defiantly.Those who stay can model high levels of integrity, authenticity, and personal authority. Val and Nathan respect McLaren’s straightforward, honest look at our Christian history and share in his trust that each of us is wise enough to look truth straight in the eye in order to forge our own path towards spiritual health and wholeness.Book referenced in this episode⁠Do I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned, by Brian D. McLaren Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...
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Jan 2, 2023 • 52min

83: How Early Faith Crisis Divides the Human Brain

Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Journey Out of Orthodoxy [Part II of II]This episode is part II of Valerie and Nathan’s reflections on their journey out of orthodoxy. In this episode they respond to the large amount of feedback that the previous episode received by those listening to Valerie’s former podcast “Generation Xhausted” and address several questions, including their thoughts on parenting, leaving institutional religion all together, and more.  Val also talks about how the human brain as a “three member committee” struggles to meet separate needs and gives a neurological explanation for why faith expansion brings up so much angst in so many people. Book referenced in this episode: Faith After Doubt by Brian McLaren. Support the show**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO FRIDAY EPISODES(Watch a 2-minute how-to video)THEN subscribe to Fridays here. TROUBLE WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION? Email: support@buzzsprout.comCONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available ⁠⁠here!⁠ SUPPORT GROUPS: Next support & processing group coming April 2025. To register/learn more, visit here.OFFICE HOURS FOR FRIDAY SUBSCRIBERS: Check your email for the invite to our next session on Mon, Feb 3rd at 2 p.m. Central!CLASSES: Visit our library.SUPPORT: Make a one-time donation to ⁠her business Venmo account⁠ or ...

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