
What It's Like To Be...
Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2024 • 31min
An Archaeologist
Join archaeologist Eric Cline as he uncovers ancient wine cellars, discusses the difference between a shard and a sherd, and ponders what future archaeologists will think of us. Delve into the excitement of finding ancient sites, the significance of pottery in dating excavations, and the possible impact of plastic on 21st-century civilizations.

Apr 9, 2024 • 29min
An FBI Special Agent
Retired FBI Special Agent Dan Brunner shares insights on building cases against MS-13 gang members, flipping suspects in interrogations, and the significance of the '1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle'. He discusses the process of gathering evidence, the art of investigative work, and the dynamics between the FBI and the Department of Justice in deciding to prosecute.

Mar 26, 2024 • 30min
A Cattle Rancher
Chachi Hawkins, a cattle rancher in southwest Texas, discusses the challenges of raising cattle in the high desert, hauling calves to auction, and protecting the herd from mountain lions. She shares her transition from a corporate career to cattle ranching, the seasonal rhythms of ranching operations, and the emotional attachment to calves. The podcast explores the world of family-operated cattle ranching and sheds light on the multi-faceted role of a cattle rancher, including managing environmental challenges and the deep familial legacy of ranching.

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Mar 19, 2024 • 38min
(BONUS) From Choiceology: “The Superforecasters”
Exploring the decision-making process behind President Obama's raid on Osama bin Laden's compound, highlighting the risks and uncertainties involved. Insights on forecasting accuracy and the development of 'super forecasters' through probability training and team collaboration for improved predictions.

Mar 12, 2024 • 30min
A Turnaround Consultant
Explore the challenges of guiding struggling companies, making tough personnel decisions, uncovering fraudulent practices, managing cash flow in consultancy, and resolving family business challenges with a turnaround consultant.

Feb 27, 2024 • 30min
A Nurse
A nurse shares intense moments from a code blue situation and humorous aspects like 'Code Brown'. The emotional toll of nursing trauma and burn victims is discussed. The precise pre-surgery routine and dynamics with young doctors are explored. Handling multiple burn patients during a crisis and the chaotic reality are depicted. Nursing passion, purpose, and challenges drive the narrative of dedication and resilience in the profession.

Feb 13, 2024 • 30min
A Stand-Up Comedian
Stand-up comedian Chris Grace discusses the challenges of crafting jokes, finding gigs, and improvising based on audience reactions. They delve into his worst bombing experience and the concept of a 'bringer' show. They also explore the life and business of a stand-up comedian, the profession of stand-up comedy, comedy terms, audience size, and the intense feedback loop of stand-up comedy.

Jan 30, 2024 • 29min
A Hair Stylist
A hair stylist with 27 years of experience shares their approach to hairstyling, dealing with indecisive clients, and the influence of face features on hairstyles. They reflect on their journey to becoming a hairstylist and the unique relationships formed with clients. The podcast hosts discuss the book 'Working' and the significance of learning from mistakes. The speaker contemplates buying the salon, reflects on owning a larger business during the pandemic, and emphasizes the importance of faith. The chapter also explores different payment models for stylists and the importance of clear feedback in the hairstyling process.

Jan 16, 2024 • 30min
A Welder
Discover the journey and challenges of becoming a welder, including the importance of constantly improving and identifying well-done welds through inspections and x-ray testing. Explore the frustrations of the job, the shortage of welders, and the potential career path for welders in quality control. Learn about welding safety concerns, common injuries, and the fear of going to the doctor

Jan 2, 2024 • 28min
A Piano Teacher
A piano teacher shares her approach to teaching piano, building trust and achieving quick wins. They discuss teaching students of various ages, changing the approach to teaching piano, and the world of pedagogy. The speaker also highlights the impactful teaching of Francis Clark and the long-term nature of piano lessons.