
What It's Like To Be...
Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you.
Latest episodes

Sep 10, 2024 • 30min
A Camera Operator
Join Pauline Edwards, an accomplished camera operator, as she dives into the vibrant world of reality TV and film production. She shares the unique challenges of framing scenes and maintaining emotional continuity, especially under the pressure of demanding directors. Discover what a 'swingle' is and hear about her journey navigating the industry as a female and Black operator. With personal anecdotes, Pauline highlights the camaraderie among camera operators and the technical artistry required to capture spontaneous moments on set.

Aug 27, 2024 • 32min
A Long-Haul Truck Driver
Kathy and Gene Lednicky, team truck drivers navigating the highways, share their stories from the long-haul life. They dive into hauling unusual loads like 32,000 lbs of dead rats and the peculiarities of trucking lingo, including what a ‘lumper’ is. Discover the dynamics of driving as a couple, the role of CB radios in trucker culture, and the joys of catching sunrises on the open road. They also discuss route planning, the challenges of living in close quarters, and the emotional toll of long periods away from home.

Aug 13, 2024 • 32min
A Summer Camp Director
Eric Sasson, a summer camp director, shares his adventures in creating transformative experiences for kids in the woods. He discusses the bittersweet emotions on the last night of camp and explores the bond formed between counselors, often witnessing unexpected romances. Listeners will learn about the challenges of camp logistics and the joy of fostering a nurturing environment where children can express themselves freely. Eric also reflects on the unique rituals like the final campfire, showcasing the deep impact summer camp has on both kids and their families.

Jul 30, 2024 • 28min
An Ice Cream Truck Driver
Erin Bailey, a New Jersey ice cream truck driver, shares her delightful journey of turning old school buses into ice cream trucks. She discusses the challenges of running a mobile business while keeping freezers cold and balancing customer preferences. Erin reveals her best-selling treats, reflects on her longstanding connections with customers, and reveals the nostalgic impact of ice cream truck melodies on summer. Join her as she celebrates the joy and community spirit integral to her unique profession.

Jul 16, 2024 • 34min
An Ocean Lifeguard
Join Ed Vodrazka, an ocean lifeguard in California, as he shares stories about reading the ocean, performing CPR on a dolphin, and leading daring rescues. Learn about the signs of trouble in the water, staying vigilant in the tower, and the challenges faced by ocean lifeguards. Dive into the insightful world of lifeguarding with Ed!

Jul 2, 2024 • 28min
A Secret Service Agent
Retired Secret Service agent, Cindy Marble, shares insights on surveillance methods, protecting public figures, and learning to jump from moving cars. Discover the unique terminology used in the Secret Service and the mental focus required in high-pressure situations.

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Jun 18, 2024 • 29min
A Tennis Coach
Veteran tennis coach Vesa Ponkka shares insights on nurturing young players, coping with setbacks, and the importance of mental resilience in tennis. He discusses the shift from player to coach mindset, the challenges of managing pressure in sports, and the balance between developing strengths and improving weaknesses in coaching.

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Jun 4, 2024 • 33min
A PR Crisis Manager
Chris Thomas, a PR crisis manager, shares insights on managing high-pressure situations like data breaches and media frenzies. He discusses the intense process of gathering information, preparing statements, and conducting press conferences. The podcast also explores the role of crisis communicators in handling media scrutiny and highlights the importance of strategic communication in crisis management.

May 21, 2024 • 27min
A Creative Director
Creative director Jo Skillman from Texas discusses crafting bespoke images with AI, pitching ideas to risk-averse clients, and the struggles creative directors face. Learn about 'swoop and poop' and why creative directors grind their teeth at night.

May 7, 2024 • 30min
A Dog Trainer
Dog trainer Keely Korbel discusses reading canine body language, training owners, and the controversial use of e-collars. She shares insights on transforming aggression through training and the importance of understanding dogs' behavior in public settings.