
Moody's Talks - Inside Economics
Join Chief Economist Mark Zandi, Marisa DiNatale and Cristian deRitis as they discuss key indicators and other aspects of the global economy. Contact us at insideeconomics@moodys.com. Visit online at www.economy.com/economicview
Latest episodes

Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 6min
Cruise Controls or Smoke Signals
Jonathan Smoke, Chief Economist for Cox Automotive, and Michael Brisson, Director at Moody's Analytics, dive into the automotive landscape. They discuss the impact of tariffs on production and pricing, dissecting their differing views on auto credit's future. The pair highlight trends in vehicle sales, driven by consumer fears and economic pressures like rising auto loan delinquencies. Additionally, they examine how wage growth interacts with consumer behavior in a volatile market, offering key insights into the industry's outlook.

Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 11min
Housers on the Housing Shortage
Jim Parrott, a housing policy expert, Ira Goldstein, a Philadelphia housing legend, and Maggie McCullough, CEO of PolicyMap, dive into the decade-long housing shortage crisis. They unpack surprising insights into regional housing discrepancies and the complexities behind the statistics. The conversation reveals a staggering deficit of 2 million housing units, while addressing the pressures faced by moderate-income earners amid rising rents. Together, they emphasize the critical role of data in shaping effective housing policies to meet community needs.

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Jul 11, 2025 • 60min
Austan Goolsbee Clears the Dirt
Austan Goolsbee, the President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and former chairman under President Obama, dives into the complexities of the current economy. He shares insights on the challenges of tariffs affecting interest rate normalization and reflects on past financial crises. Goolsbee weighs the controversial implications of artificial intelligence on jobs while maintaining a humorous perspective on economic discussions, revealing his ambition to blend the wisdom of Paul Volcker with the flair of Muhammad Ali.

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 6min
Chit-Chatting About Jobs
Dante DeAntonio, Senior Director of Economic Research at Moody's Analytics, joins the hosts for a lively discussion about the labor market. They unravel the contradictions between positive job reports and the underlying economic weaknesses, alongside concerns about stagnant wage growth. The group also debates the potential threats of higher inflation lurking beneath the surface. Engaging in a stats game, Marisa showcases her knowledge, stumping the experts with surprising figures. The conversation fuses expert insights with playful banter.

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Jun 27, 2025 • 1h
Zelman on the Housing Zeitgeist
Ivy Zelman, Executive Vice President of Zelman & Associates, shares her 30 years of expertise on the housing market, joined by Adam Kamins, a regional economist at Moody's Analytics. They dissect the current bearish outlook due to disappointing demand and a mortgage rate lock's impact. Ivy discusses the regional differences in housing dynamics and why builders are pulling back. The conversation also covers the challenges faced by first-time buyers and the role of policy changes on the housing landscape.

Jun 20, 2025 • 44min
Cochrane on China, Chris on Crude
This week, Steve Cochrane, recently retired Chief APAC Economist at Moody's Analytics, joins Chris Lafakis, Director of Climate and Energy Economics, to explore the intricate dance between geopolitics and the economy. Steve shares insights on managing workplace dynamics after 32 years in the game, while Chris delves into U.S.-China economic tensions. The duo discusses rising oil prices triggered by Middle Eastern conflicts and their potential impacts on consumer spending. A blend of personal reflections and serious analysis makes for an engaging conversation!

Jun 18, 2025 • 51min
Private Credit & Systemic Risk
Join Samim Ghamami, a Senior Economist at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, as he dives into the booming private credit market, now worth over $2 trillion. He discusses the systemic risks tied to this rapidly expanding sector and how it impacts middle-market lending, private equity, and emerging markets like real estate. Samim also addresses the challenges of transparency and the regulatory landscape in the wake of the COVID pandemic, emphasizing the need for updated policies to stabilize financial systems.

Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 7min
Stagflation(ish)
Matt Colyar, an inflation expert and Assistant Director at Moody's Analytics, dives into the rising threat of stagflation. He discusses how higher tariffs and geopolitical conflicts are poised to push inflation rates up. Attention is also given to the potential for a recession, examining factors like labor supply and energy prices. Colyar emphasizes the role of consumer behavior in navigating economic fluctuations and the Federal Reserve's challenge in maintaining its inflation mandate amidst these pressures.

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Jun 10, 2025 • 58min
Reconciling Reconciliation
Sharon Parrott, President of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, dives into pressing fiscal issues affecting low- and moderate-income communities. She critiques the latest reconciliation legislation, warning it favors high-income earners while cutting essential programs like Medicaid and food assistance. The discussion highlights how tax cuts fail to stimulate growth and how these policies may deepen income inequality. Parrott urges a reassessment of budget priorities to safeguard vulnerable populations amidst the looming fiscal challenges.

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Jun 7, 2025 • 51min
Labor Market Yellow Flags
Dante DeAntonio, Senior Director of Economic Research at Moody's Analytics, joins the hosts for a deep dive into the recent jobs report. They unravel the puzzling disconnect between weak job growth and a booming stock market. The conversation highlights alarming downward revisions to payroll numbers, suggesting signs of a recession. They also challenge the narrative around the low unemployment rate, questioning its accuracy amid underlying labor market weaknesses. The potential impact of declining employment on consumer sentiment sparks an engaging debate.