Ty Tashiro, a social scientist and author of "Awkward," dives into the intriguing world of small talk and social anxiety. He discusses practical strategies for overcoming barriers to conversation, especially in everyday settings like hair salons. Personal anecdotes reveal the balance between light banter and meaningful exchanges. The importance of genuine curiosity in initiating dialogue shines through as Tashiro emphasizes how small talk can pave the way for deeper connections, despite its inherent awkwardness.

Making small talk can be hard—especially when you’re not sure whether you’re doing it well. But conversations are a central part of relationship-building. In this first episode of How to Talk to People, we explore the psychological barriers to making good small talk and unravel the complexities of the mutual discomfort that comes with talking to people we don’t know well. The social scientist Ty Tashiro and the hairstylists Erin Derosa and Mimi Craft help us understand what it means to integrate awkwardness into our pursuit of relationships.This episode is hosted by Julie Beck, produced by Rebecca Rashid, and edited by Jocelyn Frank and Claudine Ebeid. Fact-check by Ena Alvarado. Engineering by Rob Smierciak. The managing editor is Andrea Valdez. Special thanks to AC Valdez.Music by Tellsonic (“The Whistle Funk”), Ryan James Carr (“Botanist Boogie Breakdown”), and Arthur Benson (“Organized Chaos,” “She Is Whimsical”). Talk to How to Talk to People—by “talk,” we mean write to us—at howtopodcast@theatlantic.com. To support this podcast, and get unlimited access to all of The Atlantic’s journalism, become a subscriber.Also: If you have any comments or suggestions about the show, submit feedback at theatlantic.com/listener-survey. We'd love to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this engaging conversation, psychologist Ty Tashiro, author of "Awkward: The Science of Why We're Socially Awkward and Why That's Awesome," delves into the surprising benefits of social awkwardness. He reveals how awkward traits can indicate extraordinary talent and creativity. Ty discusses the evolution of social interactions, empathy's role among awkward individuals, and how these unique characteristics can lead to personal empowerment and fulfillment. He also shares personal stories that highlight the journey from awkwardness to self-reliance.

Ty Tashiro, a psychologist and author specializing in social awkwardness, explores the surprising advantages of being awkward. He discusses how awkwardness often signals extraordinary potential, debunks the myth that it's exclusive to introverts, and shares techniques to improve social skills. Tashiro also examines the genetic basis of social awkwardness and its connection to creativity. Listeners gain insights into navigating social interactions and the unique strengths that awkward individuals bring to relationships.

Social scientist, cartoonist, journalist, and counselor discuss embracing awkwardness. Topics include middle school reflections, navigating social awkwardness, growth, creativity, connection, candid sex education, and embracing authenticity.