George Monbiot and Patrick Holden engage in a two-part debate on whether everyone should go vegan. Monbiot argues that livestock farming contributes to greenhouse gas emissions and is wasteful of resources, while Holden provides counterarguments regarding the carbon cost of growing crops and the importance of grazing livestock. The podcast explores the environmental impacts of animal-based diets, the need for a switch to plant-based diets, and innovative approaches to food production.

Columnist and environmental campaigner George Monbiot debates with Patrick Holden, CEO of the Sustainable Food Trust, about the environmental impact of livestock farming and the benefits of veganism. Topics discussed include greenhouse gas emissions, resource wastage, health benefits of vegan diets, the carbon cost of growing crops, and the potential of alternative vegan food options. The podcast also explores models of rewilding and land ownership.