Nathan Labenz, founder of Waymark and host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast, discusses how ChatGPT can be a copilot for learning by writing complex code in unfamiliar languages. They explore the potential of AI agents, custom instructions, using ChatGPT for knowledge exploration and patent application, generating visual outputs, and ChatGPT as a research tool.

Nathan Labenz, host of the Cognitive Revolution Podcast, and Samo Burja, a strategist in geopolitics, dive into the intricate relationship between AI and global power dynamics. They explore how advancements in AI are reshaping U.S.-China relations and the critical challenges of AI safety. The duo examines the importance of foundational research versus commercialization, highlights the complex chip supply chain, and advocates for collaboration in AI development to ensure safety and innovation in a rapidly changing landscape.

Nathan Labenz, entrepreneur and AI scout, discusses OpenAI's mission and the recent drama surrounding its leadership. He shares his experience as part of the GPT-4 red team, raising concerns about AI safety and control measures. The podcast explores OpenAI's actions in ensuring safety, the importance of specialized models, and the impact of GPT-4 on the field of AI. The conversation also delves into communication breakdowns, knowledge sharing practices, and the need for caution in open-sourcing AI models.

Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(03:00) Intro to effective accelerationism(08:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up(42:00) Transhumanism(46:00) "Equanimity amidst the singularity"(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism(01:06:00) The case for AI safety(01:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure(01:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile(01:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?(01:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?(2:09:00) "Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside"SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.

AI entrepreneur Nathan Labenz discusses the capabilities and limitations of AI, concerns about AI deception, breakthroughs in protein folding, safety comparison of self-driving cars, the potential of GPT for vision, the online conversation around AI safety, negative impact of Twitter on public discourse, contrasting views on AI, backfire of anti-regulation sentiment in tech industry, importance of constructive policy discussions on AI, concerns about face recognition technology, capabilities and concerns of autonomous AI drones, staying up to date with AI research.

Arthur Conmy sits down with Nathan Labenz for an accessible deep dive into the state of interpretability research online today. They discuss how pioneering researchers have painstakingly worked to isolate the sub-circuits within transformers that are responsible for different aspects of AI capabilities. Arthur also introduces us to a new ACDC approach that he and his co-authors have taken to automating some of the most time-consuming parts of this work. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThe Cognitive Revolution is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: Turpentine.coTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(04:40) What attracted Arthur to mechanistic interpretability?(07:49) LLM information processing: General Understanding vs Stochastic Parrot Paradigm(14:00) ACDC paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.14997 (14:45) Sponsors: NetSuite | Omneky(24:30) Putting together data sets (32:39) How to intervene in LLMs network activity(36:00) Defining metrics to evaluate the production of correct completions(44:20) The future of the mechanistic interpretability research (50:00) Extracting upstream activations in the ACDC project and evaluating impact on downstream components.(56:00) Anthropic research findings (01:08:00) 3-Step process of the ACDC approach(01:22:00) Setting a threshold and validation(01:27:00) Goal of the approach(01:32:00) Compute requirements Correction: at (01:33:00), Arthur meant to say = "quadratic in nodes"(01:35:30) Scaling laws for mechanistic interpretability(01:40:00) Accessibility of this research for casual enthusiasts(01:46:00) Emergence discourse(01:56:00) Path to AI safetyLINKS:https://arthurconmy.github.io/https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.14997 X:@labenz (Nathan)@arthurconmy (Arthur)@cogrev_podcastSPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky-NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform: NetSuite (http://netsuite.com/cognitive) and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that *actually work* customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

In this episode, Humans in AI host Haroon Choudery interviews Nathan Labenz, founder of Waymark. Nathan discusses the idea of the "Great Implementation," an imminent period of jobs being decomposed into tasks that AI can do. He also discusses broader thoughts on how to apply AI to business use cases. His recommendations include getting hands-on with the technology, starting with domains that you can easily validate, and focusing on narrow tasks vs. complex job roles.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.00:00 Coming Up01:00 The Cognitive Revolution01:20 Sponsor01:39 Intro02:09 Nathan’s path to AI 04:27 Founding Waymark06:56 The future of AI is just starting 10:00 AI dramatically enhances human capabilities 10:50 Why we started The Cognitive Revolution and what to expect14:55 Which guests will appear on the show and topics that will be discussed18:59 Being replaced by an AI host20:42 Unpacking the future of AI with “no new breakthroughs” 32:21 What’s underhyped and overhyped43:46 The dangers of AI44:51 Applying AI safely 52:19 Losing faith in technology53:38 A new AI ecology55:14 Facebook, Google and Open AI58:00 Upside and downside case for AI 58:18 Sam Altman’s case for AI01:09:25 Starting an AI company01:18:22 Closing01:18:46 Sponsor SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@labenz (Nathan) Websites:cognitivervolution.aiwaymark.comThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

Discussing AI's impact on economy, future job market, societal implications, and historical comparison. Exploring optimism, challenges, adaptability of AI in the workforce, and societal effects of economic shifts. Emphasizing the need for optimism in technology and constructing uplifting narratives about the future.

Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of the debate(00:30) Sponsor(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?(23:45) AI’s effect on coding(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped(35:00) Bounties(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions SPONSORS: Beehiiv | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.