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#176 – Nathan Labenz on the final push for AGI, understanding OpenAI's leadership drama, and red-teaming frontier models

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Dec 22, 2023
Nathan Labenz, an AI researcher and host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast, dives into the complexities of AGI and the recent turmoil at OpenAI, including Sam Altman's leadership drama. He shares his experiences on the red team for GPT-4, revealing its powerful capabilities in areas like medical diagnostics. The conversation explores ethical concerns surrounding AI development, the delicate balance between innovation and safety, and the importance of responsible governance in navigating the future of artificial intelligence.
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OpenAI's Evolving Safety Commitment

  • OpenAI's initial safety efforts seemed insufficient, but their public actions later demonstrated a more serious commitment.
  • Their improved safety measures and transparency earned Labenz's trust.
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OpenAI's Advocacy for Regulation

  • OpenAI advocates for reasonable regulation, focusing on high-compute models.
  • This approach balances safety with innovation and minimizes intrusion on most developers.
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The "No Moats" Misconception

  • The "no moats" meme, suggesting OpenAI lacked a competitive advantage, fueled cynicism about their regulatory efforts.
  • However, OpenAI's revenue growth and GPT-4's sustained performance demonstrate a defensible position.
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