Joscha Bach, VP of Research at the AI Foundation and a former researcher at MIT and Harvard, dives deep into artificial consciousness and reality's nature. He explores the intricacies of human cognition, pondering the distinctions between sentience and intelligence. Bach discusses the challenges of understanding consciousness, the implications of a possibly simulated universe, and how narrative influences our perception of self and existence. He also raises concerns about humanity's future amidst technological advances and ecological crises.

Joscha Bach, a leading cognitive scientist known for his insights into consciousness and AI, dives deep into the complex interplay of thoughts, consciousness, and agency. He proposes that consciousness arises from self-organizing software patterns, challenging traditional views. Bach discusses innovative concepts like 'Cyberanima,' and emphasizes the need for smaller, efficient AI models. He also explores the societal implications of AI regulation, advocating for a balanced approach that fosters innovation while ensuring ethical oversight.

Joscha Bach, a cognitive scientist and AI researcher, discusses our relationship with reality, self-organizing software, creativity, curiosity, and stages of development. They explore topics such as fear, consciousness, presence, curiosity as uncertainty reduction, combating social norms, animism, natural vs. human-created software, AGI, and limitations of sensory inputs. They also touch on the convergence of global traditions, Buddhism, and building a coherent world together.

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgwwDeep dive into the nature of consciousness and reality.Sponsors: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off. For Algo's podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https://www.algo.com/. Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungalCrypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOEPayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOETwitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurtDiscord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqsiTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfPSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4eSubreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverythingMerch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchLINKS MENTIONED:-QBism Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209-Donald Hoffman's book The Case Against Reality (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34eWmxz-Plato and the Nerd (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34GMexrTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:03:34 Is a Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness00:08:32 Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not)00:14:27 Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness00:34:40 Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally00:42:01 Physical world vs Computational world00:57:57 On Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable01:12:33 What parts of the mind makes statements beyond computation?01:13:57 Real numbers don't exist?01:15:23 [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic01:34:02 Donald Hoffman on Free Will01:44:03 Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists01:57:10 What would change in Bach's model if classical logic was correct?02:07:42 Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind02:13:55 Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's work* * *Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI researcher Joscha Bach discusses the relationship between AI and the human mind, including topics such as motivation, emotion, and behavior. He also explores the transformation of civilizations, the embodiment idea in AI, and the concept of metasystematicity.

Joscha Bach is a German artificial intelligence researcher and cognitive scientist who works on on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modeling, and multi-agent systems. We got connected over the hard problem of consciousness - namely, why do people seem to think it’s so hard? During our conversation we deal with the foundational questions of the technological future being built in Silicon Valley, the fever dream of machine intelligence, and try to understand why people seem to think that there’s even such a thing as the hard problem of consciousness in the first place. (00:00:00) Go! (00:04:09) Career Advice (00:11:31) Beauty, Grace, & Hotness (00:13:48) Putting on Airs (00:22:32) Patreon Ask (00:22:33) Winning for the sake of winning (00:29:35) Transformative experiences (00:36:25) Speciation event, or crap again? (00:42:17) Who is Joscha Bach (00:52:39) Physics & Causality (01:00:52) Physics vs Biology (01:12:16) Life vs Cells (01:20:14) Biosynthetic AGI (01:28:15) Creativity & Novelty (01:38:52) Wetware & Neuromorphic computing (01:50:46) The Limits of Hardware (02:05:07) The value of Agency (02:15:47) Layers of Society (02:35:03) Chimp Empire (02:52:31) Collapse (03:05:13) The Hard Problem (03:43:28) Computer Imagination (04:02:52) How reasoning works (04:14:28) Reward Functions (04:20:01) Consciousness dreams (04:25:35) The heart of the disagreement (04:30:15) Consensus Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #AGI #consciousness #machinelearning Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

In a captivating discussion, Joscha Bach, a cognitive scientist and AI strategist at Liquid AI, dives deep into the intricacies of artificial general intelligence. He explores who the key players in AGI are, their motivations, and potential futures posthuman intelligence might shape. Bach raises ethical questions about AGI consciousness and the implications for humanity. He emphasizes the need for thoughtful regulation while debating the balance of altruism and self-interest in leadership. With eye-opening insights, he envisions a harmonious coexistence between advanced AI and mankind.

Joscha Bach, a computer scientist and AI researcher at Liquid AI, delves into the fascinating landscape of consciousness and artificial intelligence. He discusses the philosophical theories of consciousness, from dualism to panpsychism, and examines if machines can ever replicate the human mind. The conversation touches on the evolution of AI, potential risks of advanced technologies, and the implications for society. Joscha also debates whether ChatGPT and its peers could surpass human intelligence, urging a careful look at AI's role in our future.

YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNBxfrmfmI0:00:00 Introduction 0:00:17 Bach's work ethic / daily routine 0:01:35 What is your definition of truth? 0:04:41 Nature's substratum is a "quantum graph"? 0:06:25 Mathematics as the descriptor of all language 0:13:52 Why is constructivist mathematics "real"? What's the definition of "real"? 0:17:06 What does it mean to "exist"? Does "pi" exist? 0:20:14 The mystery of something vs. nothing. Existence is the default. 0:21:11 Bach's model vs. the multiverse 0:26:51 Is the universe deterministic 0:28:23 What determines the initial conditions, as well as the rules? 0:30:55 What is time? Is time fundamental? 0:34:21 What's the optimal algorithm for finding truth? 0:40:40 Are the fundamental laws of physics ultimately "simple"? 0:50:17 The relationship between art and the artist's cost function 0:54:02 Ideas are stories, being directed by intuitions 0:58:00 Society has a minimal role in training your intuitions 0:59:24 Why does art benefit from a repressive government? 1:04:01 A market case for civil rights 1:06:40 Fascism vs communism 1:10:50 Bach's "control / attention / reflective recall" model 1:13:32 What's more fundamental... Consciousness or attention? 1:16:02 The Chinese Room Experiment 1:25:22 Is understanding predicated on consciousness? 1:26:22 Integrated Information Theory of consciousness (IIT) 1:30:15 Donald Hoffman's theory of consciousness 1:32:40 Douglas Hofstadter's "strange loop" theory of consciousness 1:34:10 Holonomic Brain theory of consciousness 1:34:42 Daniel Dennett's theory of consciousness 1:36:57 Sensorimotor theory of consciousness (embodied cognition) 1:44:39 What is intelligence? 1:45:08 Intelligence vs. consciousness 1:46:36 Where does Free Will come into play, in Bach's model? 1:48:46 The opposite of free will can lead to, or feel like, addiction 1:51:48 Changing your identity to effectively live forever 1:59:13 Depersonalization disorder as a result of conceiving of your "self" as illusory 2:02:25 Dealing with a fear of loss of control 2:05:00 What about heart and conscience? 2:07:28 How to test / falsify Bach's model of consciousness 2:13:46 How has Bach's model changed in the past few years? 2:14:41 Why Bach doesn't practice Lucid Dreaming anymore 2:15:33 Dreams and GAN's (a machine learning framework) 2:18:08 If dreams are for helping us learn, why don't we consciously remember our dreams 2:19:58 Are dreams "real"? Is all of reality a dream? 2:20:39 How do you practically change your experience to be most positive / helpful? 2:23:56 What's more important than survival? What's worth dying for? 2:28:27 Bach's identity 2:29:44 Is there anything objectively wrong with hating humanity? 2:30:31 Practical Platonism 2:33:00 What "God" is 2:36:24 Gods are as real as you, Bach claims 2:37:44 What "prayer" is, and why it works 2:41:06 Our society has lost its future and thus our culture 2:43:24 What does Bach disagree with Jordan Peterson about? 2:47:16 The millennials are the first generation that's authoritarian since WW2 2:48:31 Bach's views on the "social justice" movement 2:51:29 Universal Basic Income as an answer to social inequality, or General Artificial Intelligence? 2:57:39 Nested hierarchy of "I"s (the conflicts within ourselves) 2:59:22 In the USA, innovation is "cheating" (for the most part) 3:02:27 Activists are usually operating on false information 3:03:04 Bach's Marxist roots and lessons to his former self 3:08:45 BONUS BIT: On societies problems Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nolen Gertz, Betty Sue Flowers, and Joscha Bach explore the relationship between language and reality, discussing metaphors, AI, and the limitations of neuroscience. They also highlight the role of language in shaping culture and reflect on the potential dangers associated with AI.