Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Numerai: https://numer.ai/lex – Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/joscha-bach-3-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Joscha’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Plinz Joscha’s Website: http://bach.ai Joscha’s Substack: https://substack.com/@joscha PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:26) – Stages of life (18:48) – Identity (25:24) – Enlightenment (31:55) – Adaptive Resonance Theory (38:42) – Panpsychism (48:42) – How to think (56:36) – Plants communication (1:14:31) – Fame (1:40:09) – Happiness (1:47:26) – Artificial consciousness (1:59:35) – Suffering (2:04:19) – Eliezer Yudkowsky (2:11:55) – e/acc (Effective Accelerationism) (2:17:33) – Mind uploading (2:28:22) – Vision Pro (2:32:36) – Open source AI (2:45:29) – Twitter (2:52:44) – Advice for young people (2:55:40) – Meaning of life

Joscha Bach, VP of Research at the AI Foundation, discusses artificial consciousness and the nature of reality. Topics include the nature of truth, mind vs reality, hard problem of consciousness, connection between mind and universe, language and concepts, and the potential self-destruction of civilization.

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Joscha Bach, a leading cognitive scientist known for his insights into consciousness and AI, dives deep into the complex interplay of thoughts, consciousness, and agency. He proposes that consciousness arises from self-organizing software patterns, challenging traditional views. Bach discusses innovative concepts like 'Cyberanima,' and emphasizes the need for smaller, efficient AI models. He also explores the societal implications of AI regulation, advocating for a balanced approach that fosters innovation while ensuring ethical oversight.

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgwwDeep dive into the nature of consciousness and reality.Sponsors: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off. For Algo's podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https://www.algo.com/. Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungalCrypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOEPayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOETwitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurtDiscord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqsiTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfPSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4eSubreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverythingMerch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchLINKS MENTIONED:-QBism Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209-Donald Hoffman's book The Case Against Reality (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34eWmxz-Plato and the Nerd (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34GMexrTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:03:34 Is a Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness00:08:32 Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not)00:14:27 Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness00:34:40 Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally00:42:01 Physical world vs Computational world00:57:57 On Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable01:12:33 What parts of the mind makes statements beyond computation?01:13:57 Real numbers don't exist?01:15:23 [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic01:34:02 Donald Hoffman on Free Will01:44:03 Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists01:57:10 What would change in Bach's model if classical logic was correct?02:07:42 Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind02:13:55 Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's work* * *Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Guests Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, and Rob Haisfield discuss the evolution of generative AI, GANs, GPT-2, and simulative AI. They explore the potential of AI for game experiences, chat interactions, and world simulations, highlighting advancements in text generation and creative applications of AI technology.

AI researcher, Joscha Bach, discusses the nature of reality, self-generated simulations, merging consciousness with AI, and the need for desire and goals in AI. They explore the limitations of perception, consciousness and agency in both single-celled organisms and humans, implications of AI in the real world, climate change and its impact on organisms, concerns about building AI systems, and the importance of gut health and personalized fitness.

AI researcher Joscha Bach discusses the relationship between AI and the human mind, including topics such as motivation, emotion, and behavior. He also explores the transformation of civilizations, the embodiment idea in AI, and the concept of metasystematicity.

Joscha Bach is a German artificial intelligence researcher and cognitive scientist who works on on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modeling, and multi-agent systems. We got connected over the hard problem of consciousness - namely, why do people seem to think it’s so hard? During our conversation we deal with the foundational questions of the technological future being built in Silicon Valley, the fever dream of machine intelligence, and try to understand why people seem to think that there’s even such a thing as the hard problem of consciousness in the first place. (00:00:00) Go! (00:04:09) Career Advice (00:11:31) Beauty, Grace, & Hotness (00:13:48) Putting on Airs (00:22:32) Patreon Ask (00:22:33) Winning for the sake of winning (00:29:35) Transformative experiences (00:36:25) Speciation event, or crap again? (00:42:17) Who is Joscha Bach (00:52:39) Physics & Causality (01:00:52) Physics vs Biology (01:12:16) Life vs Cells (01:20:14) Biosynthetic AGI (01:28:15) Creativity & Novelty (01:38:52) Wetware & Neuromorphic computing (01:50:46) The Limits of Hardware (02:05:07) The value of Agency (02:15:47) Layers of Society (02:35:03) Chimp Empire (02:52:31) Collapse (03:05:13) The Hard Problem (03:43:28) Computer Imagination (04:02:52) How reasoning works (04:14:28) Reward Functions (04:20:01) Consciousness dreams (04:25:35) The heart of the disagreement (04:30:15) Consensus Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #AGI #consciousness #machinelearning Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Joscha Bach, a computer scientist and AI researcher at Liquid AI, delves into the fascinating landscape of consciousness and artificial intelligence. He discusses the philosophical theories of consciousness, from dualism to panpsychism, and examines if machines can ever replicate the human mind. The conversation touches on the evolution of AI, potential risks of advanced technologies, and the implications for society. Joscha also debates whether ChatGPT and its peers could surpass human intelligence, urging a careful look at AI's role in our future.

YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNBxfrmfmI0:00:00 Introduction 0:00:17 Bach's work ethic / daily routine 0:01:35 What is your definition of truth? 0:04:41 Nature's substratum is a "quantum graph"? 0:06:25 Mathematics as the descriptor of all language 0:13:52 Why is constructivist mathematics "real"? What's the definition of "real"? 0:17:06 What does it mean to "exist"? Does "pi" exist? 0:20:14 The mystery of something vs. nothing. Existence is the default. 0:21:11 Bach's model vs. the multiverse 0:26:51 Is the universe deterministic 0:28:23 What determines the initial conditions, as well as the rules? 0:30:55 What is time? Is time fundamental? 0:34:21 What's the optimal algorithm for finding truth? 0:40:40 Are the fundamental laws of physics ultimately "simple"? 0:50:17 The relationship between art and the artist's cost function 0:54:02 Ideas are stories, being directed by intuitions 0:58:00 Society has a minimal role in training your intuitions 0:59:24 Why does art benefit from a repressive government? 1:04:01 A market case for civil rights 1:06:40 Fascism vs communism 1:10:50 Bach's "control / attention / reflective recall" model 1:13:32 What's more fundamental... Consciousness or attention? 1:16:02 The Chinese Room Experiment 1:25:22 Is understanding predicated on consciousness? 1:26:22 Integrated Information Theory of consciousness (IIT) 1:30:15 Donald Hoffman's theory of consciousness 1:32:40 Douglas Hofstadter's "strange loop" theory of consciousness 1:34:10 Holonomic Brain theory of consciousness 1:34:42 Daniel Dennett's theory of consciousness 1:36:57 Sensorimotor theory of consciousness (embodied cognition) 1:44:39 What is intelligence? 1:45:08 Intelligence vs. consciousness 1:46:36 Where does Free Will come into play, in Bach's model? 1:48:46 The opposite of free will can lead to, or feel like, addiction 1:51:48 Changing your identity to effectively live forever 1:59:13 Depersonalization disorder as a result of conceiving of your "self" as illusory 2:02:25 Dealing with a fear of loss of control 2:05:00 What about heart and conscience? 2:07:28 How to test / falsify Bach's model of consciousness 2:13:46 How has Bach's model changed in the past few years? 2:14:41 Why Bach doesn't practice Lucid Dreaming anymore 2:15:33 Dreams and GAN's (a machine learning framework) 2:18:08 If dreams are for helping us learn, why don't we consciously remember our dreams 2:19:58 Are dreams "real"? Is all of reality a dream? 2:20:39 How do you practically change your experience to be most positive / helpful? 2:23:56 What's more important than survival? What's worth dying for? 2:28:27 Bach's identity 2:29:44 Is there anything objectively wrong with hating humanity? 2:30:31 Practical Platonism 2:33:00 What "God" is 2:36:24 Gods are as real as you, Bach claims 2:37:44 What "prayer" is, and why it works 2:41:06 Our society has lost its future and thus our culture 2:43:24 What does Bach disagree with Jordan Peterson about? 2:47:16 The millennials are the first generation that's authoritarian since WW2 2:48:31 Bach's views on the "social justice" movement 2:51:29 Universal Basic Income as an answer to social inequality, or General Artificial Intelligence? 2:57:39 Nested hierarchy of "I"s (the conflicts within ourselves) 2:59:22 In the USA, innovation is "cheating" (for the most part) 3:02:27 Activists are usually operating on false information 3:03:04 Bach's Marxist roots and lessons to his former self 3:08:45 BONUS BIT: On societies problems Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nolen Gertz, Betty Sue Flowers, and Joscha Bach explore the relationship between language and reality, discussing metaphors, AI, and the limitations of neuroscience. They also highlight the role of language in shaping culture and reflect on the potential dangers associated with AI.

Jim talks with Joscha Bach about current and future developments in the generative AI space. They discuss the skepticism of the press, small productive applications, questions about intellectual property rights, confabulation in human thinking, nanny rails, 3 approaches to AI alignment, Aquinas's 7 virtues, issues of consciousness-like agency, love as an answer to the alignment problem, the difficulty with fairness, serving shared sacredness, dealing with entropy, integrated information theory & its incompatibility with the Church-Turing thesis, neural Darwinism, a point where extrapolation & interpolation become the same, building an AI artist, free will, the capacity of human memory, consciousness as a conductor, the scaling hypothesis in AGI, making the system learn from its own thoughts, computation as a rewrite system, neurons as animals, and much more. Episode Transcript JRS EP72 - Joscha Bach on Minds, Machines & Magic JRS EP87 - Joscha Bach on Theories of Consciousness JRS EP 178 - Anil Seth on A New Science of Consciousness JRS EP108 - Bernard Baars on Consciousness JRS EP105 - Christof Koch on Consciousness JRS Currents 072: Ben Goertzel on Viable Paths to True AGI JRS EP137 - Ken Stanley on Neuroevolution Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist working for MIT Media Lab and the Harvard Program for Evolutionary Dynamics. He earned his Ph.D. in cognitive science from the University of Osnabrück, Germany, and has built computational models of motivated decision making, perception, categorization, and concept-formation. He is especially interested in the philosophy of AI and in the augmentation of the human mind.

Dr. Joscha Bach, a thought leader in artificial intelligence, challenges us with his concept of 'cyber animism,' suggesting that nature may be inhabited by self-organizing software agents, reminiscent of ancient spiritual beliefs. He explores the nature of consciousness, arguing it could be a sophisticated program not just in humans, but also in plants and ecosystems. By delving into history, philosophy, and cutting-edge AI, he invites listeners to reconsider the connections between human, artificial, and natural intelligence.

AI researcher Joscha Bach discusses self-generated simulations, merging consciousness with AI, nature of reality and perception, AI's need for desire and goals. They explore the dangers of AI and transhumanism, desire to survive and feeling done with life, programming AI with purpose, overcoming fear, building better beliefs, building an anti-fragile identity.

AI Helps Ukraine - Charity Conference A charity conference on AI to raise funds for medical and humanitarian aid for Ukraine https://aihelpsukraine.cc/ YT version: https://youtu.be/LgwjcqhkOA4 Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst  Dr. Joscha Bach (born 1973 in Weimar, Germany) is a German artificial intelligence researcher and cognitive scientist focusing on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modelling, and multi-agent systems.  http://bach.ai/ https://twitter.com/plinz TOC: [00:00:00] Ukraine Charity Conference and NeurIPS 2022 [00:03:40] Theory of computation, Godel, Penrose [00:11:44] Modelling physical reality [00:15:19] Is our universe infinite? [00:24:30] Large language models, and on DL / is Gary Marcus hitting a wall? [00:45:17] Generative models / Codex / Language of thought [00:58:46] Consciousness (with Friston references) References: Am I Self-Conscious? (Or Does Self-Organization Entail Self-Consciousness?) [Friston] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00579/full Impact of Pretraining Term Frequencies on Few-Shot Reasoning [Yasaman Razeghi] https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.07206 Deep Learning Is Hitting a Wall [Gary Marcus] https://nautil.us/deep-learning-is-hitting-a-wall-238440/ Turing machines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_machine Lambda Calculus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus Godel's incompletness theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems Oracle machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_machine

In a captivating discussion, Joscha Bach, a cognitive scientist and AI strategist at Liquid AI, dives deep into the intricacies of artificial general intelligence. He explores who the key players in AGI are, their motivations, and potential futures posthuman intelligence might shape. Bach raises ethical questions about AGI consciousness and the implications for humanity. He emphasizes the need for thoughtful regulation while debating the balance of altruism and self-interest in leadership. With eye-opening insights, he envisions a harmonious coexistence between advanced AI and mankind.

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4Sponsors: The Anagoge Podcast can be found https://www.youtube.com/AnagogePodcast. Brilliant is https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off. For Algo's podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https://www.algo.com/. Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungalCrypto: 3CSm4FH6975J8wvKp8x8BSefH6QCVuk736PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOETwitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurtDiscord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqsiTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfPSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4eSubreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverythingLINKS MENTIONED:-John Vervaeke's Meaning Crisis series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ-Joscha Bach's Twitter: https://twitter.com/PlinzTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:04:26 Behind the scenes conversation00:05:48 Joscha's opinion of John's work00:06:52 John's opinion of Joscha's work00:08:58 Definition of consciousness / sentience / mind / self00:17:39 Primary qualia vs the "experience" of qualia00:25:00 Is science compatible with Joscha's model of simulated consciousness?00:34:55 The solution to Dualism00:35:52 People mistake their psychedelic trips for idealism00:40:55 We don't experience the physical world00:42:30 The problem of skepticism and solipsism 00:52:11 What is "rationality"?00:55:17 Mysterianism and Epistemic Boundedness01:00:38 The boundaries of consciousness (do they exist?)01:07:08 What is "real"? How do you know? Discussion on ontology01:22:15 If we're in a simulation, we wouldn't know (Plato's cave)01:27:25 The gods are personality archetypes01:29:32 Physics is less real than the Forms01:43:58 Academia doesn't value dialogue as content01:57:57 Is "truth" always "good"?02:01:45 The meaning crisis02:11:55 What did Joscha and John think 2 years, that they no longer view to be correct?02:16:17 Consciousness is a "government"02:21:16 [Donald Hoffman] Is spacetime fundamental? Can there every be a Theory of Everything?02:30:40 [Sad Face] Chinese room thought experiment of Searle's02:36:08 Software is a physical law02:43:45 [Zanthius] Why should a simulation "feel" anything? Meta-consciousness discussion02:52:43 [Anil Seth] Is consciousness substrate independent?02:55:31 Curt answers audience questions* * *Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This video is demonetised on music copyright so we would appreciate support on our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/mlst  We would also appreciate it if you rated us on your podcast platform.  YT: https://youtu.be/_KVAzAzO5HU Panel: Dr. Tim Scarfe, Dr. Keith Duggar Guests: Prof. J. Mark Bishop, Francois Chollet, Prof. David Chalmers, Dr. Joscha Bach, Prof. Karl Friston, Alexander Mattick, Sam Roffey The Chinese Room Argument was first proposed by philosopher John Searle in 1980. It is an argument against the possibility of artificial intelligence (AI) – that is, the idea that a machine could ever be truly intelligent, as opposed to just imitating intelligence. The argument goes like this: Imagine a room in which a person sits at a desk, with a book of rules in front of them. This person does not understand Chinese. Someone outside the room passes a piece of paper through a slot in the door. On this paper is a Chinese character. The person in the room consults the book of rules and, following these rules, writes down another Chinese character and passes it back out through the slot. To someone outside the room, it appears that the person in the room is engaging in a conversation in Chinese. In reality, they have no idea what they are doing – they are just following the rules in the book. The Chinese Room Argument is an argument against the idea that a machine could ever be truly intelligent. It is based on the idea that intelligence requires understanding, and that following rules is not the same as understanding. in this detailed investigation into the Chinese Room, Consciousness and Syntax vs Semantics, we interview luminaries J.Mark Bishop and Francois Chollet and use unreleased footage from our interviews with David Chalmers, Joscha Bach and Karl Friston. We also cover material from Walid Saba and interview Alex Mattick from Yannic's Discord.  This is probably my favourite ever episode of MLST. I hope you enjoy it!  With Keith Duggar.  Note that we are using clips from our unreleased interviews from David Chalmers and Joscha Bach -- we will release those shows properly in the coming weeks. We apologise for delay releasing our backlog, we have been busy building a startup company in the background. TOC:  [00:00:00] Kick off [00:00:46] Searle [00:05:09] Bishop introduces CRA [00:00:00] Stevan Hardad take on CRA  [00:14:03] Francois Chollet dissects CRA [00:34:16] Chalmers on consciousness [00:36:27] Joscha Bach on consciousness [00:42:01] Bishop introduction [00:51:51] Karl Friston on consciousness [00:55:19] Bishop on consciousness and comments on Chalmers  [01:21:37] Private language games (including clip with Sam Roffey) [01:27:27] Dr. Walid Saba on the chinese room (gofai/systematicity take) [00:34:36] Bishop: on agency / teleology [01:36:38] Bishop: back to CRA [01:40:53] Noam Chomsky on mysteries  [01:45:56] Eric Curiel on math does not represent [01:48:14] Alexander Mattick on syntax vs semantics Thanks to: Mark MC on Discord for stimulating conversation, Alexander Mattick, Dr. Keith Duggar, Sam Roffey. Sam's YouTube channel is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjRNMsglFYFwNsnOWIOgt1Q

Top intellectuals discuss the concept of free will and its implications. Topics include the relationship between actions and the world, emergence of individualization in embryos, illusion of free will in cognitive neuroscience, relativity of existence, indeterminacy in classical mechanics, interpretations of quantum mechanics, and the ontological underpinnings of materialistic perspectives.

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_AThis theolocution has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org.Sponsors: - Drink Trade: https://www.drinktrade.com/everything for 30% off-Uncommon Goods: uncommongoods.com/everything for 15% off your first gift!- Roman: https://ro.co/curt for 20% off first order- Masterworks: https://www.masterworks.art/toe (promocode: theoriesofeverything)Average net returns/Net IRR reflects annualized return on investment, net of all fees andexpenses. Past performance is not indicative of future results.*New* TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungalCrypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOEPayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOETwitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurtDiscord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqsiTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfPSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4eSubreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverythingLINKS MENTIONED:- Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc- Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw- Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4- Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmIThis episode has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org/TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:55 Bach and Levin speak about each other's work00:03:34 The cell functions as a neuron 00:07:15 Software as a control pattern00:10:55 Disciplinary boundaries in academia00:14:38 The perceptron is a "toy model" of the brain00:18:44 How do you identify yourself as a researcher?00:20:10 The benefits of podcasts vs. academia00:30:04 Beliefs of Bach's and Levin's that have drastically changed00:38:54 Memory moves outside the brain structure00:45:06 Engrams and memory storage00:47:30 The implications of transferring memory between species00:55:25 Weissman's barrier00:59:25 The notion of "competence" (Bach's and Levin's largest insight)01:12:10 Virtualization for unreliable hardware01:16:02 Defining "competence"01:22:35 Bach's issues with goals (for and against teleology)01:27:34 Planarian goals and explicitly encoded instructions01:34:55 Navigation in "Morphic Space"01:36:11 One species' birth defect can be another's benefit01:37:42 The "Intelligence Trap" and bias01:39:05 Application of each others' work to their own01:52:25 Necessities of general intelligence in cells Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst MLST Discord: https://discord.gg/aNPkGUQtc5 Twitter: https://twitter.com/MLStreetTalk The first 10 mins of audio from Joscha isn't great, it improves after. Transcript and longer summary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TUJhlSVbrHf2vWoe6p7xL5tlTK_BGZ140QqqTudF8UI/edit?usp=sharing Dr. Joscha Bach argued that general intelligence emerges from civilization, not individuals. Given our biological constraints, humans cannot achieve a high level of general intelligence on our own. Bach believes AGI may become integrated into all parts of the world, including human minds and bodies. He thinks a future where humans and AGI harmoniously coexist is possible if we develop a shared purpose and incentive to align. However, Bach is uncertain about how AI progress will unfold or which scenarios are most likely. Bach argued that global control and regulation of AI is unrealistic. While regulation may address some concerns, it cannot stop continued progress in AI. He believes individuals determine their own values, so "human values" cannot be formally specified and aligned across humanity. For Bach, the possibility of building beneficial AGI is exciting but much work is still needed to ensure a positive outcome. Connor Leahy believes we have more control over the future than the default outcome might suggest. With sufficient time and effort, humanity could develop the technology and coordination to build a beneficial AGI. However, the default outcome likely leads to an undesirable scenario if we do not actively work to build a better future. Leahy thinks finding values and priorities most humans endorse could help align AI, even if individuals disagree on some values. Leahy argued a future where humans and AGI harmoniously coexist is ideal but will require substantial work to achieve. While regulation faces challenges, it remains worth exploring. Leahy believes limits to progress in AI exist but we are unlikely to reach them before humanity is at risk. He worries even modestly superhuman intelligence could disrupt the status quo if misaligned with human values and priorities. Overall, Bach and Leahy expressed optimism about the possibility of building beneficial AGI but believe we must address risks and challenges proactively. They agreed substantial uncertainty remains around how AI will progress and what scenarios are most plausible. But developing a shared purpose between humans and AI, improving coordination and control, and finding human values to help guide progress could all improve the odds of a beneficial outcome. With openness to new ideas and willingness to consider multiple perspectives, continued discussions like this one could help ensure the future of AI is one that benefits and inspires humanity. TOC: 00:00:00 - Introduction and Background 00:02:54 - Different Perspectives on AGI 00:13:59 - The Importance of AGI 00:23:24 - Existential Risks and the Future of Humanity 00:36:21 - Coherence and Coordination in Society 00:40:53 - Possibilities and Future of AGI 00:44:08 - Coherence and alignment 01:08:32 - The role of values in AI alignment 01:18:33 - The future of AGI and merging with AI 01:22:14 - The limits of AI alignment 01:23:06 - The scalability of intelligence 01:26:15 - Closing statements and future prospects

Joscha Bach, a cognitive scientist and AI researcher, discusses our relationship with reality, self-organizing software, creativity, curiosity, and stages of development. They explore topics such as fear, consciousness, presence, curiosity as uncertainty reduction, combating social norms, animism, natural vs. human-created software, AGI, and limitations of sensory inputs. They also touch on the convergence of global traditions, Buddhism, and building a coherent world together.

Joscha Bach and Ben Goertzel discuss cognitive architectures, AGI, and conscious computers. They explore topics such as computation vs awareness, the paradox of language and self-contradiction, metaphysical categories, language as representation, particles and intelligent systems, LLMs in achieving AGI, the potential of LLMs in various domains, the future of AI development, and a critique of the theory of consciousness.

AI researcher/cognitive scientist Joscha Bach discusses various topics including the relationship between nuclear weapons and AI x-risk, global warming, AI regulation, delaying technology, humanity's locust mode, scenarios for delaying AI, and the dangers of AI regulation.

Joscha Bach, an expert in consciousness theories and artificial intelligence, joins Jim to discuss various popular consciousness theories and thinkers, including Global Workspace Theory and Integrated Information Theory. They also explore topics such as GPT-3, learning and memory, intuitive vs analytical intelligence, attention and agents, psychedelics, magical phenomena, and areas worth exploring to improve AI.

Drummer Joscha Bach, known for snare drum expertise, chats with Lexman about playing in bands, developing groove, tips for new players, and effective practice techniques.

Joscha Bach, bekannt für seine faszinierenden Vorträge auf CCC-Kongressen, diskutiert Themen wie die Rolle der Künstlichen Intelligenz in der Wissenschaft und die Herausforderungen des Standardmodells. Er erkundet die Philosophie hinter 'Rick und Morty', die Idee eines berechenbaren Universums sowie die Grenzen der KI. Außerdem beleuchtet er die Verbindung zwischen freiem Willen, Bewusstsein und gesellschaftlichen Werten und thematisiert die Risiken, die Künstliche Intelligenz für das Finanzsystem und individuelle Entscheidungen mit sich bringt.