Kieran McAnulty, a key voice in housing affordability, joins experts Sean Sweeney, Benedict Collins, and Hugh White to tackle pressing real estate issues. They dive into the burden of rising rates on homeowners and explore the effectiveness of government reforms. The conversation highlights the Kainoaara initiative's shortcomings and stresses the importance of aligning local governance with citizens' needs. Additionally, they discuss the complexities of construction cost management and the implications of New Zealand's potential role in the AUKUS alliance.

Hugh White, an expert in strategic studies, Geoff Raby, a former ambassador to China, and Heather Smith, a veteran in national intelligence, delve into Australia's pressing security challenges. They critique historical foreign policy misjudgments and explore the nation's reliance on U.S. protection amidst rising Chinese influence. The discussion emphasizes the need for Australia to adopt a multifaceted strategy, engaging more deeply in multilateral relationships while balancing its own defense capabilities for regional stability.

Debating the effectiveness of Australia's naval ship procurement plans, the Albanese government's ambitious naval fleet overhaul, concerns over rising military expenditure, and the importance of informed defense strategies for national security.