Gladden Pappin

In this engaging discussion, Gladden Pappin, editor at American Affairs and a prominent advocate for national conservatism, shares his insights on the future of MAGA after Trump. He explores why Trump's message resonated with voters, including those from the Democratic Party disenchanted with traditional politics. Pappin argues that immigration has significantly influenced right-wing gains and defends national conservatism as a viable path forward for America. He also highlights key figures shaping this movement, emphasizing a vision focused on industrial policy and national identity.

Gladden Pappin, president of the Hungarian Institute of International Affairs and a key figure in transnational conservative thought, dives deep into shifting political paradigms. He discusses the rise of a post-liberal order as a reaction to liberalism's shortcomings. The conversation highlights how American and European conservatism interconnect amidst evolving EU-US relations. Pappin also emphasizes the need for inclusive political discourse, the emergence of new alliances, and the transformative ideas presented in Patrick Deneen's work on governance.