

America’s Next Story: Trumpism After Trump
Oct 6, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Gladden Pappin, editor at American Affairs and a prominent advocate for national conservatism, shares his insights on the future of MAGA after Trump. He explores why Trump's message resonated with voters, including those from the Democratic Party disenchanted with traditional politics. Pappin argues that immigration has significantly influenced right-wing gains and defends national conservatism as a viable path forward for America. He also highlights key figures shaping this movement, emphasizing a vision focused on industrial policy and national identity.
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Why Trumpism Could Outlast Trump
- Trumpism may endure because it channels grievances the old GOP couldn't address.
- National conservatism reframes policy debates around industry, immigration, and national purpose.
Anonymous Origins Of A Movement
- Gladden Pappin described starting an anonymous blog, the Journal of American Greatness, to defend Trump's ideas.
- They hid their names because intellectual circles treated Trump with deep suspicion.
Old GOP Story Lost Its Fit
- The pre-Trump Republican story tied American success to free markets and spreading liberal democracy.
- That story became ill-suited to post-Cold War problems like deindustrialization and China's rise.