Georgiana Laudi is the co-founder and CEO of a consulting agency called Forget The Funnel, where she helps SaaS companies scale and improve conversion rates through customer-led growth. She’s also a marketing and growth advisor to companies like MarketerHire, SparkToro, and Sprout Social. Previously, she was the VP of Marketing at Unbounce and has worked in growth marketing for over 20 years. In today’s episode, Gia speaks about how to identify your ideal customer, how to map their user flows in order to find the biggest growth opportunities, and examples of product changes she’s recommended that have led to the largest growth unlocks. She shares the exact process she works through with founders to uncover opportunities, as well as how to increase subscriptions and retention for SaaS businesses.—Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/customer-led-growth-georgiana-laudi—Where to find Georgiana Laudi:• Twitter: https://twitter.com/ggiiaa• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgianalaudi/• Website: https://www.forgetthefunnel.com/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:• Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/• Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lenny• Maven: https://www.maven.com/lenny—Referenced:• How SaaS Marketers Can Hold High-Impact Customer Research Interviews: https://www.forgetthefunnel.com/resources/saas-customer-research-interviews• Jobs To Be Done: Email Invite Template & Interview Questions by Forget The Funnel: https://docs.google.com/document/d/183PzYjQi2vsIRlPMUrtzRwZF1VdnZWNDAZsrJ4MRT4Q/edit• The Growth Framework for Customer-Obsessed SaaS Teams: https://www.forgetthefunnel.com/resources/saas-customer-journey-mapping• Project Snow White: https://marker.medium.com/what-seven-years-at-airbnb-taught-me-about-building-a-company-e1d035d49c56#:~:text=middle%2C%20an[…]0White,-was%20one%20of• Startupfest: https://startupfestival.com/for-startups/• Pirate Metrics: https://fourweekmba.com/pirate-metrics/• How Airbnb Proved That Storytelling Is the Most Important Skill in Design: https://www.inc.com/yazin-akkawi/the-surprising-technique-airbnb-uses-to-better-sell-an-experience.html• Jobs to Be Done: https://jtbd.info/• Demand-Side Sales 101: https://www.amazon.com/Demand-Side-Sales-101-Customers-Progress/dp/1544509987• When Coffee and Kale Compete: https://www.amazon.com/When-Coffee-Kale-Compete-products-ebook/dp/B07C7HH662• Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It: https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005• Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products: https://www.amazon.com/Hooked-How-Build-Habit-Forming-Products/dp/1591847788• Forget the Funnel: https://www.forgetthefunnel.com/customer-led-growth/book• Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Thousand-Weeks-Management-Mortals/dp/B08XZY5ZF7• Shine Theory: https://www.shinetheory.com/• April Dunford’s website: https://www.aprildunford.com/• SparkToro: https://sparktoro.com/—In this episode, we cover:(04:33) Georgiana’s background(07:03) Why funnels are antiquated (08:52) Better positioning and messaging to find the ideal customer(13:59) How Gia was inspired by Airbnb’s storytelling(19:23) How to analyze what’s successful and what to invest in(21:54) The ideal customer to learn from(26:37) How to choose which customer job to prioritize (32:21) Value moments in the customer relationship(36:45) Applying customer feedback (44:40) Metrics for measuring the customer’s meaningful engagement (49:45) What’s included in the messaging and positioning guidebook(51:15) Tips for messaging(54:13) Example of a customer job at SparkToro(55:58) What is the Jobs to Be Done framework?(59:50) Lightning round(1:04:18) How Gia manages her time—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

Georgiana Laudi, co-author of 'Forget the Funnel', discusses customer-led growth, talking to customers for an advantage, the pressure of marketing to marketers, creating marketing materials, cross-functional teams, pirate metrics, customer experience framework, and meeting customer goals.

Georgiana Laudi, co-author of "Forget the Funnel," shares her insights on customer-led growth strategies. She highlights the importance of concise business writing with their book kept under 200 pages. Laudi discusses why traditional marketing funnels are outdated, advocating instead for a framework rooted in understanding customer needs. The conversation also covers how to effectively conduct Jobs-to-be-done interviews and integrate these insights into marketing strategies. Additionally, she humorously recounts her experiences recording the audiobook.

Georgiana Laudi, a marketing guru with a focus on turning customer value into cash for SaaS companies, dives into why traditional sales funnels are outdated. She discusses the transition to customer-led growth, emphasizing the importance of understanding customer journeys and critical moments of value. Georgiana highlights the necessity of optimizing onboarding and aligning teams around customer needs. She also addresses the value of relevant KPIs in tracking customer success and the challenges of positioning in zero-touch sales models.

Claire Suellentrop, a co-author focusing on customer-led growth, and Georgiana Laudi, co-founder of a consulting firm for startups, discuss their new book, which promotes a customer-centered approach to building recurring revenue. They explain why they titled the book 'Forget the Funnel' and outline a three-step strategy for unlocking customer-led growth. Key insights include engaging future customers and operationalizing insights for sustainable revenue. Real-world examples illuminate how to adapt business strategies based on customer feedback.