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Peter Merholz: Design at Scale is People!

May 4, 2021
Peter Merholz, a 25-year veteran in digital design and co-author of 'Org Design for Design Orgs,' shares insights on maintaining quality amidst design scalability. He highlights the contrast between systemic approaches and humanistic values in design, emphasizing the importance of people-centered processes. The conversation shifts to reflections on their early experiences in information architecture, the UX differences between public and private sectors, and a preview of Merholz's upcoming talk at the Design at Scale conference.
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ANECDOTE

Toys R Us Website Critique

  • Lou Rosenfeld shared a story about critiquing the Toys R Us website in 1997, which resembled an organizational chart rather than a user-friendly commerce site.
  • His critique led to significant changes, but ultimately, the whole team was replaced, showing how org structure affects design.
INSIGHT

Conway's Law and Design

  • Organizations tend to structure websites mirroring their internal organization charts, confusing users.
  • Conway's Law explains how organizations metabolize design efforts back into their original flawed structure.
INSIGHT

Design at Scale is People

  • Design at scale is about scaling the human aspect, not just systems like design systems.
  • Focus first on people and culture to enable true design impact before investing heavily in systems.
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