
Read to Lead Podcast 291: How to Have Conversations That Matter with Celeste Headlee
Nov 5, 2019
Celeste Headlee, award-winning public radio journalist and author, shares why conversation is an evolutionary superpower. She explores listening versus speaking, how phones and internet habits erode attention, why we talk over loved ones, and practical ways to set up better talks. She also discusses crafting TEDx talks and books that shaped her thinking.
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Conversation As Evolutionary Superpower
- Conversation skills were an evolutionary superpower that allowed Homo sapiens to collaborate and survive.
- Celeste Headlee argues strong conversational ability set humans apart from other species in cooperative hunting and social organization.
Tech Shrinks Attention Spans
- Technology, especially smartphones, has dramatically shortened our attention spans and habits.
- Celeste links internet browsing habits to real-world distraction and potential cognitive damage.
Listening Is Different From Talking
- Talking well doesn't equal conversing well because conversation requires listening and turn-taking.
- Celeste warns skilled talkers often wait to speak rather than listen to understand the other person.








