
Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson How to Use Mindfulness to Beat Depression with Dr. Zindel Segal
Jan 3, 2022
Dr. Zindel Segal, a Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto and co-creator of Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT), shares insights on combating depression through mindfulness. He explains the origins of MBCT and its benefits compared to traditional therapy. The conversation delves into understanding sadness as an experience, the practices involved in MBCT, and strategies for individuals to incorporate mindfulness into their daily routines. Segal emphasizes the importance of social support and ongoing mindfulness practices for long-term emotional well-being.
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Relapse and Sadness
- Mood-congruent memory makes individuals susceptible to relapse as sadness triggers depressogenic views.
- MBCT aims to change how people relate to sadness, rather than eliminating it, to prevent these triggers.
Experiencing Sadness
- Explore sadness in the body, noticing its sensations.
- Compare bodily experience with mental narratives about sadness, revealing potential discrepancies.
MBCT Practices
- Practice mindfulness of daily experiences like eating and body sensations.
- Cultivate awareness of automatic pilot versus present moment awareness, using curiosity and non-judgment.

