The Chris Voss Show

The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Miracle Manager: Why True Leaders Rarely Make Great Managers by Kevin G. Armstrong

Sep 27, 2025
In this insightful conversation, Kevin G. Armstrong, author and EOS implementer, challenges the conventional views on leadership and management. He explains how true leaders differ from effective managers, highlighting key traits that successful managers possess, like empathy and accountability. Armstrong argues for the importance of processes over goals in achieving sustainable success. He shares intriguing insights on personality traits that affect management roles and emphasizes the need for complementary partnerships between visionaries and managers.
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INSIGHT

Leaders ≠ Managers

  • Kevin Armstrong separates leaders (visionaries) from managers (coaches) and argues they require different skill sets.
  • He defines managers as people who get things done efficiently through others and leaders as those who look to the future and do what they believe is right.
ADVICE

Promote For Management Skills

  • Hire or promote for management traits like empathy, organization, process discipline and courage to have tough conversations.
  • Avoid promoting top performers solely because they excel at individual contributor roles.
INSIGHT

Managers Are Coaches Who Run Processes

  • Managers are essentially coaches who enforce processes and develop people within systems.
  • Following proven processes scales performance and prevents organizations from hitting a growth ceiling.
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