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#657: Professor John Vervaeke — How to Build a Life of Wisdom, Flow, and Contemplation

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Feb 23, 2023

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John Vervaeke

John Vervaeke, a professor of psychology and cognitive science at the University of Toronto, delves into the pursuit of wisdom and the nature of consciousness. He discusses the interplay between intuition and logic in problem-solving and explores how practices like Tai Chi can foster flow states and enhance well-being. Vervaeke highlights the importance of shared practices for building meaningful connections and reflects on the dynamic relationship between language, culture, and cognition, offering insights into how we can navigate our complexities for personal growth.

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ANECDOTE

Leaving Christianity

At 15, John Vervaeke's life fragmented after leaving fundamentalist Christianity.
He developed a distaste for fragmentation, personally and academically.

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Religious Trauma

John Vervaeke experienced childhood trauma related to religious beliefs.
Therapy, meditation, Tai Chi, and philosophy helped him address the trauma.

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Intelligence vs. Wisdom

Intelligence solves problems, but rationality and wisdom address self-deception.
Self-deception stems from cognitive biases forming complex patterns.

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Wisdom vs. Foolishness: The Paradox of Intelligence

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Navigating Intuition and Logic in Problem Solving

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The Dynamics of Intuition

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Exploring Flow States and Philosophical Practices

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Exploring the Sacred: Philosophy, Poetry, and Timelessness

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John Vervaeke (@vervaeke_john) is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. He currently teaches courses on thinking and reasoning with an emphasis on cognitive development, intelligence, rationality, mindfulness, and the psychology of wisdom.

Vervaeke is the director of UToronto’s Consciousness and Wisdom Studies Laboratory and its Cognitive Science program, where he teaches Introduction to Cognitive Science and The Cognitive Science of Consciousness, emphasizing the 4E model, which contends that cognition and consciousness are embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended beyond the brain.

Vervaeke has taught courses on Buddhism and Cognitive Science in the Buddhism, Psychology, and Mental Health program for 15 years. He is the author and presenter of the YouTube series “Awakening from the Meaning Crisis” and his brand new series, ‘After Socrates.’

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[05:31] The four ways of knowing (4P).

[10:15] Affordances.

[13:04] Semantic memory.

[13:37] Flow.

[27:03] Did John find Tai Chi, or did Tai Chi find him?

[29:46] Leaving Christianity.

[34:42] Wisdom vs. knowledge.

[36:54] Self-deception.

[41:53] When is logic the illogical choice for solving a problem?

[46:05] The powers and perils of intuition.

[55:05] Spotting patterns that need breaking.

[59:18] Meditation vs. contemplation.