To Gate or Not to Gate Content with Chris Orlob - The Transaction - Ep #5
Apr 11, 2024
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Join Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson as they chat with Chris Orlob, Co-Founder & CEO of pclub.io, about content gating, multi-threading in sales, crafting prospecting emails, and running demo calls. Chris shares unconventional sales insights and the importance of empathetic outreach in prospecting.
Prospecting emails should focus on understanding challenges and offering solutions.
Build relationships through single-threaded interactions with multiple stakeholders in sales.
Having strong internal champions can positively impact deal negotiations and drive them towards success.
Deep dives
Establishing Value Early in the Sales Cycle
Quantifying the potential value of the deal upfront and aligning with the champions helps solidify the business case. This approach can be powerful during negotiations to anchor the discussion around the significant value at stake.
Differentiation and Procurement Strategy
Establishing clear differentiation early in the sales cycle can deter competitors from undercutting prices during negotiations. Having champions who value your unique offerings can prevent price-driven negotiations by showcasing the worth beyond just cost.
Empowering Champions to Drive Negotiations
Having strong internal champions who are willing to leverage their influence can help navigate tough negotiations. They can step in to align perspectives, showcase the agreed-upon value, and move the deal forward effectively.
Strategic Approach to Negotiations
Negotiation tactics are crucial but are most effective when backed by a solid foundation of value quantification, differentiation, and active champion support. Addressing these elements early enhances negotiation outcomes and strengthens the market position.
Optimizing Negotiations Through Value, Differentiation, and Champion Support
Negotiation success is amplified by quantifying value early, showcasing differentiation, and fostering strong internal champions. These elements lay the groundwork for effective negotiation strategies and can influence better outcomes during critical deal discussions.
Joining Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson in Episode 5 is special guest Chris Orlob, the Co-Founder & CEO of pclub.io. Many of you probably know about Chris or his awesome work early on at Gong which helped the company reach hockey stick level growth. Chris shares his “unqualified” thoughts on when to gate content, how to get deals done on demo calls, and what prime sales prospecting outreach should look and feel like.
Also, Craig compares himself to a cartoon image on a coffee mug and Matt mixes up two timeless classic holiday films.
Takeaways:
Some of the best prospecting messages don't even like talk about the product, its benefits, or your company. For example, a good prospecting email could be: [A very well articulated grasp of the challenges they're probably going through] and we've been able to help a bunch of other companies solve this. Is this challenge worth a live chat?
“It's not multi threading, it's single threading with multiple people.”
Chapters:
00:00 - Comparing Craig’s Mug to Craig’s Mug
07:24 - Customer at the Gates: Dodging the Ungated Content Dogma
14:30 - Mastering Multi-Threading in B2B Sales
28:16 - Demystifying the Sales Deck
31:24 - Crafting the Perfect Prospecting Email
37:06 - When to Demo & How to Run That Call
48:00 - Negotiations: What Happens when there’s now Win-Win?
Quote of the Show:
“I'm like the world's least qualified marketer of all time, but I still have strong opinions about it.” - Chris Orlob
Sponsor:
Ringmaster Conversational Marketing - The Transaction is sponsored and produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through Branded podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/