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Annie Duke, a former professional poker player and author, shares valuable insights on decision-making and successful investing. She emphasizes the importance of mental tools for maximizing returns and making smarter choices, drawing from her experience in poker where decision-making is crucial. By discussing pre-commitment devices in investing, she highlights the significance of having strategies to avoid costly mistakes and enhance profitability. Duke's emphasis on creating data points for long-term investments showcases how anticipating business downturns and making informed decisions can lead to more profitable outcomes.
Annie Duke's transition from poker to consulting and writing was driven by her passion for cognitive science and teaching. Her mentors in academia, such as Barbara Landau and colleagues like Phil Tetlock, influenced her decision to dive into the intersection of cognitive science and poker. Through a deep exploration of decision-making and risk in poker, Duke ventured into consulting and authorship, focusing on sharing her knowledge and insights on making informed choices and mastering decision-making processes.
Annie Duke discusses the importance of probabilistic thinking in minimizing risk and enhancing decision-making in investing. She highlights how understanding expected value can significantly reduce the impact of risk, especially when evaluating investments and assessing potential outcomes. Duke emphasizes the need to calculate expected value accurately to manage risks effectively, stressing the significance of determining one's edge and making informed decisions based on solid predictions.
Annie Duke delves into the concepts of near and far transfer in learning and decision-making processes. Emphasizing the difficulty of transferring training across disparate domains, she suggests that teaching statistical concepts promotes far transfer more effectively. Duke advocates for deep conceptual understanding, especially in statistical principles like regression to the mean and base rates, as instrumental in enhancing decision-making skills and promoting cognitive flexibility across various areas of life.
Annie Duke discusses the challenge of closing feedback loops effectively in decision-making, especially in the context of investments and risk assessments. By generating more outcomes through systematic forecasting and prediction, she suggests that investors can evaluate the success of their decision-making processes more efficiently. Duke underscores the importance of making explicit judgments and predictions based on statistical concepts to enhance accountability and discipline in decision-making, ultimately leading to more informed and successful outcomes.
The podcast episode discusses the concept of destination analysis used by a successful investing partnership to assess the future prospects of businesses. Destination analysis involves determining the good or bad outcomes for a business years ahead. The speaker shares their approach of creating a 'losing playbook' to objectively assess investments when they start underperforming. Moreover, the episode delves into the importance of 'kill criteria' which requires setting specific conditions and timelines for exiting investments to enhance decision-making for long-term investors.
The episode explores strategies to overcome biases like the endowment effect and the impact of owning ideas and investments. The speaker emphasizes the significance of adopting an 'outside view' to detach personal identity from investments. They outline the importance of having a 'quitting coach' or advisor who can provide objective guidance and challenge irrational attachment to investments. By setting clear kill criteria and seeking external perspectives, investors can make more rational decisions and avoid being swayed by emotional attachments.
Kyle Grieve chats with Annie Duke about her own story of quitting and how it helped sparked the idea for one of her books, the importance of base rates in helping us make better decisions, how to improve our investing processes when we have long feedback loops, the importance of using kill criteria to quit an investment or hypothesis, how to use a quitting coach to help you quit things we hold onto for too long, the importance of dissociating ourselves from our most cherished ideas, and a whole lot more!
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
02:28 - Annie's own story of quitting and how it got here to where she is today.
15:50 - Why expected value is so crucial for investors to manage risk best.
20:15 - The importance of understanding base rates.
20:15 - How we can use base rates to help us best understand expected values of our investments.
24:55 - How we can reframe our analysis of a business to close feedback loops on long-term investments.
32:40 - How we can get transfer from one skill to another far away skill (e.g. chess to investing).
45:28 - How we can use kill criteria in our investing decision-making to improve our abilities to quit a losing investment.
45:28 - How to engineer your decision-making to give yourself an outside view.
51:11 - How we can disassociate ourselves from our investments to reduce the impacts of the endowment effects.
51:32 - How to set up a quitting coach by permitting them to disagree with you.
And so much more!
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
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