The Michael Shermer Show

287. Bobby Azarian — Life, the Universe, and Cosmic Complexity

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Jul 12, 2022
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ANECDOTE

Childhood Fear of Eternity

  • Bobby Azarian recalls his early fear of eternity triggered by his grandfather's death.
  • This fear led him to reject organized religion due to its unsatisfactory answers about afterlife.
INSIGHT

Universe's Self-Organizing Complexity

  • The universe self-organizes by forming increasingly complex structures, from atoms to societies.
  • The second law of thermodynamics entails energy cost, not inevitable disorder, allowing life to create order if energy is accessed.
INSIGHT

Progressive Evolution Debate

  • Stephen Jay Gould argued evolutionary progress is a statistical artifact from a 'left wall of simplicity.'
  • Azarian counters that increasing niche complexity drives statistically inevitable evolution of greater intelligence and complexity.
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