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287. Bobby Azarian — Life, the Universe, and Cosmic Complexity

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Is There a Level Above Self Awareness?

There would be levels, and that's what i talk about in the book. You have cognition emerging first, and then you have consciousness defined as subjective experience. And then you can have what i call a meado awareness. People use the term differently, but i use it as another level above self ousness. There's a lot of work on meda cognition. A. Steve fleming has a lab a tat's on working in Meda cognition. I think that's one step above self awareness. We shouldn't just understand intelligence a as being this thing where there are other agents with beliefs and desires.

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