Charles Love on Sowell's "Discrimination and Disparties"
Jan 30, 2022
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Sorting behavior is driven by personal preferences and practical considerations, not just racism or discrimination.
The rub-off effect can lead to negative stereotypes and prejudice against an entire community based on the actions of a few individuals.
Government interventions to unsort people can have unintended negative outcomes, resulting in social upheaval and disruptions within communities.
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Sorting and unsorting people
In this podcast episode, the host delves into the concept of sorting and unsorting people. He highlights how people naturally and voluntarily sort themselves into different categories and communities based on factors like ethnicity, culture, and socioeconomic status. This sorting behavior is not limited to racial groups but applies to all communities. The host emphasizes that this sorting is often driven by personal preferences and practical considerations rather than racism or discrimination. He also discusses how third-party sorting by government initiatives or social policies can have unintended consequences, leading to further segregation and social issues.
The impact of sorting on communities
The podcast episode explores how sorting behavior can impact communities and individuals within them. It highlights the rub-off effect, where negative behavior by some individuals in a certain group can reflect poorly on others in the same group. For example, the presence of delinquency or criminal activity within a racial or ethnic community can lead to negative stereotypes and unwarranted prejudice against all members of that community. The episode also discusses how segregation and sorting can affect neighborhoods, schools, and social interactions, influencing perceived safety, educational opportunities, and economic disparities.
The complexity and paradox of sorting
The host examines the complexity and paradoxical nature of sorting and unsorting people. The podcast episode highlights how sorting is often driven by personal choices and preferences, which can either be voluntary self-sorting or imposed by external factors. It challenges the common perception that racial sorting is more prevalent or significant than sorting within other social groups. The episode underscores the importance of considering multiple factors, including individual choices, cultural norms, historical context, and societal consequences when understanding sorting behavior and its implications.
The consequences of third-party unsorting
The podcast discusses the consequences of third-party unsorting, particularly through government interventions and policies. It explores examples such as the forced unsorting of neighborhoods and schools through desegregation efforts. The host highlights how these attempts to unsort by external forces can sometimes create unintended negative outcomes, leading to social upheaval, increased polarization, and disruptions within communities. The episode raises important questions about the effectiveness of such interventions and the potential trade-offs involved in unsorting people against their natural inclinations and preferences.
The Impact of Housing Vouchers on Neighborhoods
Housing vouchers, intended to provide financial support to low-income individuals, are often insufficient in helping recipients move to higher-income neighborhoods. This leaves many people stuck in impoverished areas, unable to experience or understand life in different neighborhoods. The government's attempt to promote integration by giving higher-value vouchers through lotteries has had limited success, as the chances of winning are low and the problem extends beyond just the housing voucher system.
The Flawed Approach to Education and Racial Integration
The belief that racial integration alone can solve educational disparities is flawed. The argument that predominantly black schools can only improve with the addition of white students undermines the capabilities and potential of black students. Rather than focusing on race, it is crucial to address issues such as educational quality, resources, teaching methods, and individual student performance. Additionally, the displacement of black teachers due to segregated schools has negatively impacted the availability of qualified educators in black communities.
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In this episode, we discuss Thomas Sowell's 2018 book Discrimination and Disparities.
In particular, we focus on only one chapter of the book, Chapter 3, called "Sorting and Unsorting People."
If you'd like to read a summary of the whole book, click HERE.
We discuss the following subjects: • Educational sorting of people • Sorting people by neighborhood • Self sorting vs sorting by third parties • Sorting into ethnic enclaves • Sorting within the black community • The special case of Dunbar High School • Brown v. Board of Education • Unsorting schools and neighborhoods • Alan's personal reflections on the subject of sorting people • The "rub off effect"
The show ends with an audio clip from the 2004 film "Crash", you can watch the video clip HERE.
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