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How to Deal with Software Complexity • Gail Murphy & Charles Humble
Mar 7, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Gail Murphy, a Computer Science Professor and VP of Research at UBC, joins Charles Humble, a freelance tech consultant and podcaster. They delve into the complexities of modern software engineering, emphasizing that productivity isn't just about lines of code but rather focus and task management. Gail shares insights on the challenges of architecture evolution and the downsides of open-source dependencies. They also explore the changing landscape of technical leadership and how it shapes team dynamics in navigating software complexity.
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- Developer productivity is increasingly viewed through the lens of engagement and focus rather than just lines of code, emphasizing the importance of minimizing task-switching.
- The complexity of modern software architecture necessitates ongoing refactoring and careful management of dependencies, particularly in open-source ecosystems, to maintain quality and performance.
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Understanding Developer Productivity
Defining developer productivity remains an elusive challenge within the software engineering community. Early attempts tried to measure productivity by counting lines of code, but this was soon deemed inadequate as it fails to account for the quality of output. The focus has shifted towards understanding how developers perceive their productivity, recognizing that factors like engagement, ability to focus, and minimizing task-switching contribute significantly to their experience. Researchers are now exploring methods to enhance developers' perceptions of their own productivity, thus promoting a more favorable work environment that can lead to higher output.
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