
GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech
The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.
Latest episodes

Jun 27, 2025 • 42min
Better Value Sooner Safer Happier • Simon Rohrer & Eduardo da Silva
Simon Rohrer, Co-author of "Better Value Sooner Safer Happier" and Senior Director at Saxo Bank, joins Eduardo da Silva, an Independent Consultant, to delve into transformative organizational practices. They discuss the shift from output-driven to outcome-focused thinking, emphasizing stakeholder satisfaction and continuous improvement. The conversation highlights the importance of technical excellence, decentralized decision-making, and balancing smaller incremental changes with larger innovations for effective transformation.

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Jun 20, 2025 • 52min
Tap Into Fast Flow with Team Topologies & Platform Engineering • Manuel Pais & Julian Wood
Manuel Pais, co-author of "Team Topologies," teams up with Julian Wood, a Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS, to explore the evolution of organizational design in tech. They discuss how cognitive load impacts team performance and the necessity of aligning teams with value streams. The conversation highlights the growing role of AI in development, the importance of product management in platform engineering, and strategies for navigating change. Their insights offer a roadmap for fostering innovation and adaptability within teams.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 47min
Kotlin for Developers • Marcin Moskala & Nicola Corti
Join Marcin Moskala, a Fullstack Kotlin Developer and author of "Effective Kotlin," alongside Nicola Corti, a Staff Android Engineer at Meta. They dive into the evolution of Kotlin, discussing how it contrasts with Java and the importance of community contributions. Key topics include optimizing software efficiency, exploring advanced Kotlin features, and promoting educational initiatives for accessible programming. Marcin's commitment to empowering developers shines through as they share insights on their initiatives and the future of Kotlin education.

Jun 6, 2025 • 45min
Design & Develop Distributed Software Better w/ Multiplayer • Tom Johnson & Julian Wood
Tom Johnson, Co-Founder and CTO of Multiplayer, and Julian Wood, Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS, delve into the complexities of modern software development. They discuss the importance of simplifying processes through automation, particularly in documentation and debugging. Emphasizing collaboration and transparency, they explore the role of visual tools in understanding software architecture. The conversation also touches on evolving practices, the impact of AI on accessibility for developers, and the future of infrastructure abstraction in driving innovation.

May 30, 2025 • 45min
Communication Patterns • Jacqui Read & Gregor Hohpe
Jacqui Read, a software architect and author of "Communication Patterns," teams up with Gregor Hohpe, an expert on platform strategy. They dive into the pivotal role of effective communication in tech, emphasizing the need for clear visuals and structured documentation. Jacqui discusses her upcoming ACED Model, aimed at aligning software development with business needs. The pair also explore the collaborative nature of writing and the significance of accessibility, especially for neurodiverse individuals, enhancing clarity in complex ideas.

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May 23, 2025 • 41min
From XP to TCR & Limbo • Kent Beck & Daniel Terhorst-North
Kent Beck, the creator of Extreme Programming, teams up with Daniel Terhorst-North, known for Behavior Driven Development. They discuss the evolution of XP and its profound impact on agile practices. Key topics include short feedback loops for improved adaptability and the innovative Test && Commit || Revert method. They highlight the psychological safety crucial for high-performing teams, emphasizing collaboration and learning from failure as essential for innovation. Kent envisions a future of real-time scaling in software development, promoting faster experimentation.

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May 16, 2025 • 42min
Unbundling the Enterprise • Stephen Fishman, Matt McLarty & Erik Wilde
Stephen Fishman and Matt McLarty, co-authors of "Unbundling the Enterprise," share their insights on enhancing business success through digital transformation. They discuss the transformative power of APIs and the importance of optionality in fostering innovation, allowing organizations to capitalize on unexpected opportunities. Emphasizing the synergy between digital strategies and traditional models, they reveal how flexible systems enable rapid experimentation. With real-world examples, they advocate for aligning technology with business objectives for sustainable growth.

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May 9, 2025 • 50min
How To Lead Through Transformation in Tech • Hannah Foxwell & Charles Humble
Hannah Foxwell, an Independent Consultant and founder of "AI for the Rest of Us," teams up with Charles Humble, a freelance techie and consultant. They discuss the human side of tech transformations, emphasizing methodologies like pair programming and inclusive team environments. Foxwell introduces her "three-teams model" for new managers, stressing equitable leadership for underrepresented groups. The duo highlights AI's potential in software development while advocating for thoughtful adoption, experimentation, and prioritizing psychological safety in innovation.

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May 2, 2025 • 42min
Facilitating Software Architecture • Andrew Harmel-Law & Sonya Natanzon
Andrew Harmel-Law, a Technical Principal at Thoughtworks and author, teams up with Sonya Natanzon, Senior Director of Software Engineering at Guardant Health. They dive into fostering decentralized sociotechnical systems and highlight the importance of embracing imperfections in decision-making. The conversation explores psychological safety as essential for innovation and emphasizes adaptability and small iterations. They discuss the balance between creativity and structure in building resilient systems that thrive amid complexity, ensuring accountability and collective ownership.

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Apr 25, 2025 • 40min
Revolutionizing Software with Moldable Development • Tudor Girba & Julian Wood
Join Tudor Girba, a Software Environmentalist and CEO of feenk, alongside Julian Wood, a Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS, as they unpack the groundbreaking concept of moldable development. Girba emphasizes creating flexible tools that streamline interaction with complex systems and legacy code, utilizing the Glamorous Toolkit for enhanced developer engagement. The duo also discusses the role of generative AI in software development, not just as a summarizer but as a partner in exploration. Finally, they touch on making software 'habitable,' akin to designing comfortable living spaces for users.