GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech Infrastructure as Code • Kief Morris & Abby Bangser
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Oct 17, 2025 In this conversation, Kief Morris, a Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks and author of "Infrastructure as Code," shares insights alongside Abby Bangser, Principal Engineer at Syntasso. They explore the evolution of infrastructure over the last decade, discussing shifts from server configuration to complex cloud architectures. Kief emphasizes the need for aligning infrastructure with business goals, the role of abstraction layers, and the potential impacts of AI on troubleshooting and decision-making in infrastructure development.
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IaC Evolved Into Much Larger Problem Space
- Infrastructure as Code has shifted from server configuration to managing complex cloud services and containers.
- The sheer scale and variety of cloud services today makes low-level IaC increasingly difficult to manage.
Low-Level IaC Is Becoming Unsustainable
- Current IaC tools are thin wrappers over cloud APIs and encourage low-level, static "snowflakes as code."
- New approaches (System Initiative, Config Hub) focus on exposing and operating on infrastructure data models instead of just code.
Provide Progressive Abstractions For Users
- Build multiple abstraction layers so developers can operate at the right level and only dive deeper when needed.
- Provide progressive discovery: make easy tasks trivial and enable deeper control for advanced needs.
