
 A Productive Conversation
 A Productive Conversation Endless Curiosity with Derek Sivers
 Sep 3, 2020 
 Derek Sivers, a multifaceted writer, musician, and founder of CD Baby, explores the essence of living a good life based on years of curiosity and his nomadic experiences. He discusses the inspiration behind his upcoming book, 'How To Live,' emphasizing that there's no singular way to be happy. Sivers believes that creativity thrives under constraints and highlights how our perception of time is deeply personal. He also shares thought-provoking insights on life phases, joy in productivity, and his relationship with email—peppered with humorous Star Wars references. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 2min 
 The Interplay of Identity and Freedom 
 01:45 • 18min 
 Redefining Personal New Beginnings 
 19:17 • 3min 
 Maximizing Efficiency: The Power of Shopify and Meal Planning 
 22:19 • 4min 
 Diversifying Investments and Enhancing Productivity 
 26:46 • 5min 
 Evolving Passions and New Identities 
 31:45 • 24min 

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After decades of following his own interests, today’s guest Derek Sivers has gone down many interesting rabbit holes. With an ambitious title for his new book, ‘How To Live’, we explore what makes a good life. Derek Sivers is best known as a writer, musician, programmer and the founder of CD Baby, an online CD store for independent musicians. For the past 12 years, he’s been living a nomadic lifestyle and pondered a lot about what makes a good life. In this episode, we explore his new book he’s currently writing ‘How To Live’ – and how there is no one ‘right’ way to live. Derek’s life philosophy of being curious is infectious, and I enjoy going down a few rabbit holes with him in this interview. Join us as we explore how time is personal, setting creative constraints, and the surprising conclusion from his book. Get ready for a few Star Wars references too. Talking Points The reason why he wrote his new book ‘How To Live’ The role curiosity plays in his life How setting constraints gives your freedom Thinking beyond New Year’s Eve: how time is personal The big phases throughout Derek’s life Is Derek always having fun? His relationship with email Quote “Constraints free you from the daunting prospect of infinite possibility” Helpful Links How To Live American History X The Listening Book | Amazon Quiet | Amazon The 4-Hour Workweek | Amazon Akimbo podcast by Seth Godin Conversations with Tyler John McWhorter The Art of Noticing | Amazon The Good Place Comedian Hugo Jacomet’s YouTube channel Salt | Amazon Cod | Amazon Curious with Josh Peck Monthly Self-Expansion Project Chris Guillebeau Sivers.org Want to discover some of the books mentioned on the podcast? Check out Scribd, my reading app of choice. If you enjoyed the episode, please leave a rating and/or review wherever you listened to the episode. Also don't forget to check out all of our podcast sponsors found on our podcast sponsors page. And if you want to have easy access to the archives of the show and ensure you don't miss the new episodes to come then subscribe to the podcast in the app you're using.
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