The Shit No One Tells You About Writing November Bonus Episode
Nov 24, 2025
Bestselling author Patricia Sands shares her inspiring journey, starting to write at 65 and transitioning from indie to traditional publishing with Amazon’s Lake Union. She discusses the joy of writing, setting personal publishing goals, and her charming new novel, The French Effect. Bookseller Emilie Sommer returns with her monthly comps segment, recommending captivating titles from literary suspense to speculative romance, ensuring every listener finds the perfect comparative read!
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Late Start Sparked By A Real Bridge Club
- Patricia Sands began writing at 65 after a friend urged her to write about their real-life bridge club.
- She wrote for fun and community before deciding to indie-publish when readers encouraged her to share it widely.
Publisher Found Her After Indie Success
- After three indie books, Lake Union (Amazon) emailed Patricia and acquired her Provence trilogy.
- They re-edited, kept her covers, republished the first two, and released the third with minimal editorial changes.
Indie Publish With Quality Editing
- If traditional routes fail, consider indie publishing and hire strong freelance editors.
- Patricia credited careful indie editing and a trusted service for launching her career.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
How Patricia Began Writing at 65
02:07 • 1min
Personal Life and Writing Voice
03:07 • 47sec
Choosing to Indie Publish First
03:53 • 59sec
Amazon's Lake Union Finds Her
04:52 • 10sec
What Lake Union Offered
05:03 • 7min
Deciding Against Publisher Deadlines
12:14 • 3min
Benefits and Limits of Traditional Publishing
15:07 • 3min
Returning to Indie Publishing
18:17 • 3min
Finding and Keeping Readers
21:15 • 3min
Introducing The French Effect
24:24 • 4min
Ad break
28:46 • 4min
Comps Segment Intro with Emilie Sommer
32:20 • 35sec
Comps: Writers & Lovers Style Novels
32:56 • 4min
Comps: Multi-Voiced Historical Fiction
37:10 • 2min
Comps: YA/New Adult Pirate Romance
39:23 • 2min
Comps: Voicey Literary Suspense
40:59 • 2min
Comps: Speculative Romance with Rock Star
43:00 • 3min
Comps: Hollywood 'Mean Boss' Redemption
45:36 • 2min
Comps: Sci‑Fi Women's Fiction Blend
48:03 • 2min
Comps: YA Portal Fantasy Sisters
50:11 • 2min
Comps: Appalachian Thriller Survival
51:58 • 3min
Comps: School‑for‑Spies with Worldbuilding
54:36 • 2min
Outro
56:57 • 2min
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In part one of November’s bonus episode, bestselling author Patricia Sands joins Bianca to share how she started writing at 65, indie-pubbed her way to being approached by Amazon’s Lake Union, and built a devoted readership along the way. They chat about writing for joy, setting publishing goals for yourself, the pros and cons of indie vs traditional publishing, and her new novel The French Effect — a heartwarming Paris-at-Christmas tale full of charm, tango, and second chances.
And don’t miss Emilie Sommer from East City Bookshop — she’s back with another brilliant comps segment!
Take a listen here or watch it on YouTube!
Note: CeCe Lyra is a literary agent at Wendy Sherman Associates. If you’d like to query CeCe, please refer to the submission guidelines at www.wsherman.com. Carly Watters is a literary agent at P.S. Literary Agency, but her work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly on this podcast are solely that of her as a podcast co-host and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.
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