
The Shit No One Tells You About Writing
This is a podcast for emerging writers who want to improve the quality of their work and learn more about the publishing industry. Your one host, Bianca Marais (the bestselling author of 'The Witches of Moonshyne Manor') interviews authors, agents, editors and just about anyone and everyone who's involved in bringing a book to market. She's joined by her cohosts, literary agents Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra from P.S. Literary Agency, who read and critique query letters as well as opening pages in their Books with Hooks segment. Expect good advice, honest insights, and a few laughs along the way.
Latest episodes

16 snips
Jun 12, 2025 • 36min
One of the Best Hooks We’ve Had on a BWH Segment
Pop the champagne—it’s the 200th episode of Books with Hooks! Join hosts Bianca, Carly, and CeCe as they celebrate this major milestone with signature style and sharp writing advice. In this special segment, they dive into two fresh submissions: a gripping crime thriller and a thought-provoking book club novel. Carly and CeCe deliver expert feedback on character depth, narrative hooks, and story structure, while highlighting the power of perspective in storytelling. Packed with practical tips and inspiring insights, this celebratory episode is a must-listen for any writer looking to level up their query game and storytelling craft.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Attend an event:https://www.biancamarais.com/upcoming-events.htmlFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writinghttps://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliatepage: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo sign up for our Substack newsletter, head to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/Our Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Jun 5, 2025 • 36min
Bianca and CeCe Discuss The Real Sh*t No One Tells You About Writing
In this special episode, CeCe Lyra sits down with our very own Bianca Marais to explore her writing journey, with a spotlight on her latest novel, ‘A Most Puzzling Murder.’ If you’re not already familiar with her work, Bianca is the bestselling author of ‘The Witches of Moonshyne Manor’, the beloved novels ‘Hum If You Don’t Know the Words’ and ‘If You Want to Make God Laugh’, and the Audible Original ‘The Prynne Viper’. She has also taught creative writing at the University of Toronto’s School of Continuing Studies, where she received an Excellence in Teaching Award.In this candid conversation, CeCe and Bianca dive into the challenges of switching genres, the role of curiosity seeds in storytelling, and finding the right balance between pantsing and plotting. Bianca offers valuable insights into crafting tone, designing an interactive reading experience through puzzles, and managing the intricacies of writing an ensemble cast. They also discuss the behind-the-scenes realities of publishing and the importance of trusting your agent.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch! Is now SOLD OUT!Find Bianca at another event by visiting: https://www.biancamarais.com/upcoming-events.htmlFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writing https://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliate page: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo submit a question for the show, go to https://www.theshitaboutwriting.com/submit-a-question.htmlTo subscribe to our Substack newsletter, go to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/aboutOur Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

May 29, 2025 • 44min
Concrete vs. Abstract Curiosity
Kate Visser, author of the YA fantasy novel 'Stage of Shadows' and psychologist, shares her experiences with query writing and character development. She delves into the complexities of dual POV narratives, exploring character arcs and emotional depth. The discussion highlights the challenges of balancing ambitious concepts with reader engagement. Visser’s insights reveal how specific emotions and moral dilemmas enrich storytelling, while the hosts provide constructive feedback on enhancing narrative clarity and maintaining reader interest throughout the journey.

May 26, 2025 • 2h 32min
May Bonus Episode
In the first part of this month’s bonus episode, Carly Watters interviews Anna Mitchael, an accomplished author and copywriter. Anna discusses her writing journey, experiences in magazine publishing, and the art of storytelling through vignettes. They discuss the importance of building relationships in the writing community, the unique format of vignettes in Anna's latest book, and the nuances of ghostwriting. Anna shares her insights on creativity, overcoming fear, and the challenges of the publishing process, offering valuable advice for aspiring writers. Carly and Anna explore the complexities of personal triggers, the challenges of storytelling, and the realities of the publishing industry. They discuss the emotional toll of writing, the importance of self-reflection, and the nuances of crafting a compelling query letter. Anna shares her experiences as a writer and the pressures that come with publishing, while Carly provides insights as a literary agent, emphasizing the need for authenticity and clarity in writing. The discussion culminates in valuable advice for aspiring writers, focusing on the importance of knowing one's goals and the significance of reading work aloud.In part two of May’s bonus episode, Bianca embraces a full circle moment with podcast listener and former Books with Hooks author Noreen Nanja where they discuss her debut novel, 'The Summers Between Us,'. The novel explores themes of identity, belonging, and the complexities of love. She shares her journey from writing a query letter to securing an agent and navigating the publishing process, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and feedback. Noreen reflects on the challenges of writing a dual timeline narrative, the significance of trigger warnings, and the evolution of her characters. The conversation also touches on the pressures of writing a second book and the exploration of romance tropes, providing valuable insights for aspiring authors.In part three of May’s bonus episode, CeCe Lyra interviews Laura Leffler. Laura discusses her journey as a writer, exploring her origins, the creation of her debut novel 'Tell Them You Lied', and the challenges she faced, particularly regarding the sensitive topic of 9/11. CeCe and Laura discuss the intricacies of the publishing process, including querying agents, the evolution of her manuscript, and the importance of feedback in shaping her work. Laura shares her personal experiences with rejection and the eventual thrill of receiving a book offer, while CeCe emphasizes the importance of emotional investment in the work. They also touch on the complexities of the publishing process, including the transition from offer to release, and the daunting task of publicity for introverted authors. Finally, Emilie Sommer from East City Bookshop answers all your burning comp title questions.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writinghttps://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliatepage: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo sign up for our Substack newsletter, head to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/Our Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

May 22, 2025 • 28min
How a Books With Hooks Query Became a Buzzy Debut
Jessica Guerrieri, an award-winning author and special education teacher, shares her inspiring journey from addiction recovery to writing her debut novel, 'Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.' She explores the challenges of crafting a multi-POV narrative while navigating the publishing world. Jessica emphasizes the importance of feedback from beta readers and the intricacies of using flashbacks to enhance storytelling. Her experiences offer valuable insights for aspiring writers, making the complexities of writing and publishing relatable and engaging.

May 15, 2025 • 42min
Leaning into Illustrator Notes & CeCe Not Minding a But, But
In this episode of Books with Hooks, Bianca, CeCe, and Carly dive into a YA fantasy romance query, breaking down what works—and what doesn’t—when it comes to character arcs, high stakes, and spot-on comp titles. The hosts then shift gears to a picture book query, spotlighting the power of a strong hook and truly kid-focused storytelling. Packed with sharp insights and actionable feedback, this episode is a must-listen for writers ready to level up their queries and take on the publishing world.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in-person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!Get your tickets at: https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writing https://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliate page: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo submit a question for the show, go to https://www.theshitaboutwriting.com/submit-a-question.htmlTo subscribe to our Substack newsletter, go to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/aboutOur Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

May 8, 2025 • 56min
Nuggets of Wisdom from Carley Fortune and Sue Hincenbergs
In part one of this week's author interviews, Bianca sits down with Canadian superstar writer, Carley Fortune. The authors discuss her latest novel 'One Golden Summer', reflecting on her creative process, the challenges of writing under pressure, and the importance of character development. She shares insights into navigating reader expectations and the personal struggles that influence her writing. The discussion highlights the beauty of books as objects and the emotional depth required to create compelling narratives.In the second part of this week’s episode Bianca connects with former television producer and debut novelist, Sue Hincenbergs. Sue shares her inspiring journey from aspiring writer to published author of 'The Retirement Plan.' She discusses the challenges she faced in her writing career, the evolution of her craft, and the importance of community and support in the writing process. With insights gained from Bianca's podcast, Sue highlights the significance of learning from others, the strategic approach to querying agents, and the joy of crafting humor and dialogue in her work. The discussion culminates in a celebration of literary citizenship and the excitement surrounding Sue's debut novel.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!Get your tickets at: https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwTo sign up for Circling the Building of Your Work, go to: https://www.biancamarais.com/courses-and-recordings.htmlFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writing https://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliate page: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo submit a question for the show, go to https://www.theshitaboutwriting.com/submit-a-question.htmlTo subscribe to our Substack newsletter, go to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/aboutOur Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

May 1, 2025 • 44min
The Problem with the Blank Canvas Protagonist
In this episode of Books with Hooks, hosts Bianca, CeCe, and Carly first review a query letter for literary fiction, providing insights on emotional depth in character relationships. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in plot points and the importance of avoiding the blank canvas protagonist so readers can be engaged and connect with them. The second query letter is for a historical novel. The hosts discuss its title, plot structure, and the effectiveness of its opening pages. The conversation emphasizes the need for strong character connections, clear narrative goals, and the balance between description and story progression.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in-person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!Get your tickets at: https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writing https://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliate page: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo submit a question for the show, go to https://www.theshitaboutwriting.com/submit-a-question.htmlFor more information and to sign up for the Beta Reader Match Up, go to https://www.biancamarais.com/beta-reader-match-up.htmlTo subscribe to our Substack newsletter, go to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/aboutOur Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Apr 28, 2025 • 49min
April Bonus Episode
In the first part of this bonus episode, Bianca interviews Lauren Ling Brown, author of 'Society of Lies.' They discuss Lauren’s journey to publication, the intricacies of writing dual perspectives and timelines, and the importance of social commentary in her work. Lauren shares insights into her writing process, the challenges of character development, and the impact of being selected for Reese's Book Club. The discussion highlights the significance of crafting a compelling prologue and the emotional stakes involved in the characters' relationships.Finally, Emilie Sommer from East City Bookshop answers all your burning comp title questions.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Find us on our socials:Upcoming in person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!Get your tickets at: https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwTo sign up for the Beta Reader Match Up, go to https://www.biancamarais.com/beta-reader-match-up.htmlTo sign up for Circling the Building of Your Work, go to: https://www.biancamarais.com/courses-and-recordings.htmlThreads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writing https://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliate page: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo submit a question for the show, go to https://www.theshitaboutwriting.com/submit-a-question.htmlTo subscribe to our Substack newsletter, go to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/aboutOur Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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Apr 24, 2025 • 31min
An Ingenious Query Hack
In this informative author interview, Bianca connects with debut novelist Sarah Damoff to discuss her novel, ‘The Bright Years’ which explores the complexities of family dynamics and addiction.Sarah shares her journey through the publishing landscape, the challenges of finding the right agent, the ingenious query hack she used, and the evolution of her novel's structure. The conversation touches on the themes of generational trauma and the impact of addiction, as well as the importance of line-level writing, including the use of similes and metaphors. Sarah's insights provide valuable lessons for aspiring writers and readers alike.Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.Upcoming in-person event you won't want to miss! A 'Most Puzzling Murder' Book Launch!Get your tickets at: https://blueheronbooks.com/item/FEHiE_RNkHAGOSqfUUiVXwTo sign up for the Beta Reader Match Up, go to https://www.biancamarais.com/beta-reader-match-up.htmlTo sign up for Circling the Building of Your Work, go to: https://www.biancamarais.com/courses-and-recordings.htmlFind us on our socials:Threads: https://www.threads.net/@the_shit_about_writinghttps://www.threads.net/@biancamarais_authorhttps://www.threads.net/@carlywatters https://www.threads.net/@cece_lyra_agentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_shit_about_writing/https://www.instagram.com/biancamarais_author/ https://www.instagram.com/carlywatters/ https://www.instagram.com/cece_lyra_agent/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSNOTYAWWebsites: www.theshitaboutwriting.com, www.biancamarais.com, www.carlywatters.com and www.cecilialyra.comBookshop.org affiliatepage: https://bookshop.org/shop/theshitnoonetellsyouaboutwritingTo sign up for our Substack newsletter, head to https://theshitaboutwriting.substack.com/Our Sponsors:* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands