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Recode Decode: Why thinking about your death five times a day is good for you

Apr 24, 2019
Hansa Bergwall, co-founder of the WeCroak app, discusses how embracing the reality of death can lead to a more fulfilling life. He explains that the app reminds users of their mortality five times a day to promote mindfulness and prioritize what truly matters. Their approach avoids ads, focusing instead on personal reflection. Bergwall also debates the ethics of technology's relationship with death and highlights cultural practices, like those from Bhutan, that reinforce appreciation for life. Humor and symbolism are key to their message.
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ANECDOTE

WeCroak's Origin

  • Hansa Bergwall, WeCroak co-founder, was a meditator familiar with death recollection.
  • He noticed that mindfulness discussions often excluded death, despite it being core to meditation practices.
INSIGHT

Bhutanese Inspiration

  • The Bhutanese saying about contemplating death five times daily inspired the app.
  • This frequent reflection on mortality helps prioritize what truly matters, increasing happiness.
ANECDOTE

Chance Encounter

  • Bergwall's co-founder, an app developer, rented his room on Airbnb.
  • This chance encounter led to the app's creation, born from their shared interest in addressing tech addiction.
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