

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Nov 6, 2025 • 40min
How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Adam Dubé, an Associate Professor of Learning Sciences at McGill University, dives deep into the impact of AI on education. He reveals that students aren't necessarily tech-savvy and explores how generative AI changes the ways they interact with learning material. Teachers express concerns about untested AI in classrooms and inconsistent district policies. Dubé warns that while AI can seem efficient, it may lead to more work and confusion, ultimately impacting student learning and motivation.

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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 18min
Lyft CEO David Risher on paying drivers more and the shift to robotaxis
David Risher, the new CEO of Lyft and former board member, discusses his proactive approach to revamping the company. He shares insights into improving driver pay through innovative initiatives like a weekly pay guarantee and earnings assistants. Risher also delves into the significance of autonomous vehicles in Lyft's future and the company's strategy to maintain brand loyalty in a tech-driven market. His emphasis on customer-centric organization and differentiating driver services showcases a forward-thinking vision for rideshare.

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Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 10min
How Silicon Valley enshittified the internet
Cory Doctorow, an influential author and internet activist, delves into his concept of 'enshittification,' explaining how platforms decline and why this trend began around 2017. He highlights Facebook as a prime case of this decay, detailing its journey from innovation to mediocrity. Doctorow discusses the failures of U.S. tech regulation and contrasts the tech landscape with retail. He proposes solutions like sectoral bargaining and improved portability for users, and while he expresses hope for change, he remains critical of Big Tech's grip on the internet.

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Oct 27, 2025 • 1h 5min
LexisNexis CEO says the AI law era is already here
Sean Fitzpatrick, CEO of LexisNexis, leads the charge as the company integrates AI into legal research and courtroom tools. He discusses the transformative role of AI in shaping legal practices, including improving accuracy and efficiency in drafting. Concerns arise about potential disruptions to junior associates' training and the necessity of human oversight amidst automation. Fitzpatrick also emphasizes the importance of transparency and ethical guidelines in deploying AI technologies within the legal field.

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Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 18min
Why GM will give you Gemini — but not CarPlay
Mary Barra, the Chair and CEO of General Motors, and Sterling Anderson, GM's Chief Product Officer, dive into the future of automotive innovation. They reveal GM's exciting partnership with Google to launch the Gemini AI assistant in 2028. The duo discusses the bold move to drop Apple CarPlay from EVs, prioritizing in-car technology for enhanced safety. Barra shares insights on market shifts, the impact of EV tax credits, and their strategy to balance electric and gas vehicle portfolios amidst changing consumer demands.

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Oct 20, 2025 • 1h 6min
Zocdoc CEO: "Dr. Google is going to be replaced by Dr. AI"
Oliver Kharraz, co-founder and CEO of Zocdoc, discusses how the platform connects patients with healthcare providers and enhances appointment access. He emphasizes the role of AI, predicting a transition from 'Dr. Google' to 'Dr. AI,' while highlighting that human clinicians will remain essential. Kharraz introduces Zocdoc's AI assistant, Zo, which improves scheduling efficiencies. He also explores Zocdoc's business model shift to per-patient pricing, its efforts to boost transparency in healthcare, and the delicate balance between AI and human oversight in medical decision-making.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 40min
The EV tax credit is dead. What now?
Transportation editor Andy Hawkins from The Verge, an expert in electric vehicles, dissects the recent expiration of the federal EV tax credit and its significant impact on the auto industry. He explains how the credit was essential for driving EV adoption and discusses the political reasons behind its elimination. Andy details how automakers like GM and Ford benefited from it, the challenges they face with profitability now, and whether states or companies can fill the incentive gap. The conversation also explores the implications for the EV market and the competitive landscape against China.

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Oct 15, 2025 • 22sec
Announcing an ad-free Decoder feed for Verge subscribers
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317 snips
Oct 9, 2025 • 44min
The AI industry is at a major crossroads
Kanjun Qiu, CEO of Imbue and AI industry expert, dives into the intersection of AI and societal impacts. He discusses the potential of ChatGPT apps as platform centralizers and warns of control issues tied to decentralization. Qiu explores the implications of AI-generated content through OpenAI's Sora, debating its influence on creativity and responsibilities in the digital age. He emphasizes the urgency for better regulations in AI hiring practices and advocates for empowering users to reshape technology's power dynamics.

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Oct 6, 2025 • 51min
Rivian CEO on CarPlay, Lidar, and affordable EVs
RJ Scaringe, the dynamic Founder and CEO of Rivian, shares insights into the company's ambitious future. He discusses the R2 model, targeting an affordable $45K price, and how it's designed for active lifestyles. Scaringe dives into the reasons behind skipping CarPlay, emphasizing Rivian's focus on a seamless native interface. He also tackles challenges like tariffs, manufacturing strategies, and the importance of staying competitive against companies like Tesla. Plus, learn about Rivian's innovative approach to autonomy and their commitment to quality in future production.


