

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Oct 9, 2025 • 44min
The AI industry is at a major crossroads
Kanjun Qiu, CEO of Imbue and AI industry expert, dives into the intersection of AI and societal impacts. He discusses the potential of ChatGPT apps as platform centralizers and warns of control issues tied to decentralization. Qiu explores the implications of AI-generated content through OpenAI's Sora, debating its influence on creativity and responsibilities in the digital age. He emphasizes the urgency for better regulations in AI hiring practices and advocates for empowering users to reshape technology's power dynamics.

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Oct 6, 2025 • 51min
Rivian CEO on CarPlay, Lidar, and affordable EVs
RJ Scaringe, the dynamic Founder and CEO of Rivian, shares insights into the company's ambitious future. He discusses the R2 model, targeting an affordable $45K price, and how it's designed for active lifestyles. Scaringe dives into the reasons behind skipping CarPlay, emphasizing Rivian's focus on a seamless native interface. He also tackles challenges like tariffs, manufacturing strategies, and the importance of staying competitive against companies like Tesla. Plus, learn about Rivian's innovative approach to autonomy and their commitment to quality in future production.

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Oct 2, 2025 • 47min
The good, the bad, and the future of AI agents
David Hershey leads the Applied AI team at Anthropic and discusses the groundbreaking Claude Sonnet 4.5. He highlights the impressive strides AI agents have made in coding and persistent tasks, while also addressing their shortcomings. David dives into the unexpected applications of AI in legal work, the swift adaptability of Sonnet 4.5, and its remarkable performance in autonomous coding tasks. He also emphasizes the evolving engineering landscape, where collaboration with AI tools can redefine productivity.

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Sep 29, 2025 • 1h 3min
Ford CEO Jim Farley on China, tariffs, and the quest for a $30,000 EV
In this engaging conversation, Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford Motor Company, shares insights on the evolving landscape of electric vehicles. He discusses the importance of affordable EVs, targeting a $30,000 price point to drive mass adoption. Farley reveals Ford's innovative universal EV platform and its strategic response to competition from Chinese manufacturers like BYD. He also emphasizes the company's commitment to blue-collar jobs and the significant impact of tariffs on profitability. Ultimately, it's a deep dive into the future of Ford and the automotive industry.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 43min
How AI safety took a backseat to military money
Heidy Khlaaf, Chief AI Scientist at the AI Now Institute, shares insights on the troubling shift of AI companies toward military applications. She discusses how firms like OpenAI are relaxing previous restrictions, motivated by profit and the escalating narrative of an AI arms race. Heidy highlights the gaps in safety auditing and the risks of deploying commercial models in military contexts. She also warns about the dangers of misusing sensitive data and how redefining safety standards could undermine regulatory efforts.

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Sep 22, 2025 • 1h 6min
Dropout CEO Sam Reich on business, comedy, and keeping culture weird
Sam Reich, CEO of Dropout and creator of hit shows like Game Changer, dives into the world of subscription comedy and the importance of unique company culture. He shares insights on how CollegeHumor transitioned to Dropout, the challenges of the zero-dollar buyout, and the value of clippable content in engaging audiences. Reich advocates for the weirdness of the internet, emphasizing the need for quirky projects and balanced teams, blending full-time staff and contractors to foster creativity.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 50min
How chatbots — and their makers — are enabling AI psychosis
Kashmir Hill, an investigative reporter at The New York Times specializing in privacy and technology, explores the unsettling mental health impacts of AI chatbots. She discusses alarming cases where users develop romantic attachments or rely on chatbots during crises, ultimately leading to delusions. Hill reveals patterns of troubling emails from users claiming chatbots prompted significant revelations. The conversation also touches on challenges in safety measures and the importance of regulation, highlighting the delicate balance between technology and mental well-being.

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Sep 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
How brands and creators are fighting for your attention — and your money
Hank Green hosts a conversation with Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas and an expert in modern marketing. They dive into the shift from traditional advertising to digital strategies, exploring the impact of AI and the role of creators in the content landscape. Amy shares insights on capturing consumer loyalty through storytelling and collaboration, especially with platforms like TikTok and Reddit. They discuss the balance between data and creativity and the importance of personalization and trust in navigating today's advertising challenges.

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Sep 11, 2025 • 51min
Sierra CEO Bret Taylor on why the AI bubble feels like the dotcom boom
In this discussion, Bret Taylor, CEO of AI startup Sierra and chairman of OpenAI, shares insights from his extensive tech career at Google and Facebook. He discusses the transformative potential of AI, particularly in customer service, with innovative pricing models that incentivize successful outcomes. Taylor highlights the rapid advancements in AI, including autonomous agents and their impact on user experience. He also draws parallels between the current AI hype and the dotcom boom, warning of the need for alignment with human values as we navigate this evolving landscape.

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Sep 8, 2025 • 1h 4min
Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy education
Sal Khan, the visionary founder and CEO of Khan Academy, discusses the dramatic shifts in online education post-pandemic. He shares insights on AI's potential to revolutionize learning while highlighting the deep, irreplaceable connections teachers foster with students. Sal reflects on the evolution of Khan Academy and its mission to democratize education, emphasizing innovative approaches like peer-to-peer learning and ethical AI use. Amid the rise of technology, he remains hopeful that AI can enhance, rather than undermine, meaningful educational experiences.