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#620: Dr. Gabor Maté — The Myth of Normal, Metabolizing Anger, Processing Trauma, and Finding the Still Voice Within
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Quick takeaways
- Processing anger and rage involves acknowledging the body's physical responses and exploring underlying emotions and past trauma.
- Finding a balance between attachment and authenticity is crucial for fostering meaningful connections while staying true to ourselves.
- Recognizing societal norms and false beliefs is essential for reclaiming our wholeness and living in alignment with our true nature.
Deep dives
The Impact of Trauma on Everyday Life
Trauma can deeply affect our daily lives, causing reactions and behaviors that stem from past experiences. For example, feelings of abandonment and rage triggered by situations that remind us of past traumas can distort our perception and interactions with others.
Dealing with Anger and Rage
Anger and rage are natural emotions, but they can become problematic when suppressed or when they intensify and extend beyond the present moment. To process anger and rage in a healthy way, it is important to fully experience the body's physical responses, raise awareness of the somatic experience, and explore the underlying emotions and imprints of past trauma. By acknowledging and nurturing the emotions, we can work towards healing and developing self-regulation.
Attachment vs. Authenticity
The dilemma between attachment and authenticity arises when we have conflicting needs. Society often expects us to conform to certain standards and suppress our authentic selves in order to maintain attachment and acceptance. However, it is crucial to find a balance between the two, where we can be true to ourselves while also fostering meaningful connections with others. This involves creating an environment that supports authenticity and self-expression.
Recognizing the Abnormalities in Society
Our society has become disconnected from our true human nature, leading to widespread disconnection, stress, and illness. Recognizing the abnormalities in societal norms and expectations is essential for our well-being. By identifying and challenging false beliefs, building meaningful connections, reconnecting with nature, and pursuing practices that promote self-regulation and healing, we can work towards reclaiming our wholeness and living in alignment with our true nature.
Importance of understanding and addressing dysfunctional behavior
The podcast emphasizes the significance of not only suppressing or punishing dysfunctional behavior, but also understanding and addressing the underlying causes. It discusses how society tends to resort to punishment, resulting in high incarceration rates and behavioral issues. The importance of applying existing scientific knowledge and research to comprehending the social and cultural dynamics behind dysfunction is highlighted.
Potential for rehabilitation within the prison system
The podcast explores the potential for rehabilitation within the prison system, focusing on trauma work and transformative interventions. It shares examples of individuals working with high-level offenders and witnessing remarkable transformations through trauma-focused approaches. The discussion highlights the need for a correctional system that aims to correct individuals rather than merely punishing them, emphasizing the importance of understanding people's drives and offering rehabilitation opportunities.
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Dr. Gabor Maté (@DrGaborMate) is a renowned speaker and bestselling author, highly sought after for his expertise on a range of topics that includes addiction, stress, and childhood development. Dr. Maté has written several bestselling books, including the award-winning In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction, When the Body Says No: Understanding the Stress-Disease Connection, and Scattered: How Attention Deficit Disorder Originates and What You Can Do About It. He has also coauthored Hold On to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers. His works have been published internationally in nearly thirty languages.
His new book is The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture.
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[05:30] How COVID affected Gabor.
[06:33] Exploring plant medicine with Indigenous First Nations.
[13:29] How Gabor got fired from his own ayahuasca retreat.
[16:35] Can Indigenous medicine ever be understood through a Western lens?
[21:37] How does Gabor clear himself of the trauma he takes from others?
[22:48] Was writing The Myth of Normal more labor intensive than Gabor’s other works?
[25:40] A personal story about how past trauma can show up in everyday life.
[29:01] Coping with rage and anger.
[40:01] Attachment versus authenticity.
[45:12] Where does depression originate?
[48:23] Raising a child to learn self-regulation.
[52:24] What Gabor hopes The Myth of Normal readers don’t miss.
[57:20] Finding the right balance of self-care when caring for a family.
[1:01:18] The harm of focusing on correcting a child’s behavior rather than their underlying emotional dynamics.
[1:05:47] Rehabilitation versus punishment of incarcerated, traumatized adults.
[1:14:55] If he couldn’t write, what would be the focus of Gabor’s clinical practice?
[1:17:50] Finding and listening to one’s inner voice or calling.
[1:25:58] Are you bargaining with your authenticity?
[1:30:41] Parting thoughts.
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