59 - "Escape Into Discomfort" - A discussion with Shinzen Young
Nov 20, 2017
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Shinzen Young, a meditation teacher and author, explores the concept of escaping into discomfort and the transformative effects it can have. They discuss the Buddhist perspective on discomfort, the cause of suffering, and the importance of mindfulness in navigating different options. The conversation also touches upon Japanese culture and the metaphor of H2O in pain and pleasure experiences.
Mindfulness can bring empowerment and transformation in challenging sensory experiences.
Understanding and addressing the second noble truth in Buddhism can lead to non-suffering and enlightenment.
Shinzen Young encourages the integration of different perspectives to bridge the gap between science and spirituality in meditation and mindfulness practices.
Deep dives
The Transformative Power of Mindfulness in Challenging Situations
Mindfulness, when maintained in a challenging sensory experience, can bring empowerment and transformation. The degree of mindfulness determines the effectiveness of this approach. Intense distress combined with even a little mindfulness can yield significant results. On the other hand, minor discomfort with a high level of mindfulness can also bring empowerment. By training ourselves systematically and preparing for life's difficulties, we develop the ability to escape into discomfort, using mindfulness to turn towards the discomfort and unblock our reactions. This fourth dimension of relief can be a valuable tool for navigating the inevitable difficulties of life.
The Four Noble Truths and the Role of Mindfulness
The Four Noble Truths in Buddhism provide insight into the nature of suffering and its causes. The second noble truth, often translated as craving, actually refers to the necessary cause of suffering. By eliminating this cause, suffering can be eliminated. The use of mindfulness is central to this process, allowing individuals to turn away from or escape into the discomfort. Understanding and addressing the second noble truth enables individuals to experience non-suffering and achieve a state of enlightenment.
The Use of God or Origin Terminology
In The Science of Enlightenment, Shinzen Young discusses concepts of God, the source, order, or origin. He is not afraid to use these terms as he bridges the gap between science and spirituality. While some Buddhist teachers may have negative reactions to the secularization of meditation and mindfulness, Shinzen Young embraces the exploration and integration of different perspectives. He encourages a broad understanding of various terminology and concepts to foster a deeper connection between secular practices and spiritual traditions.
Escaping Into Discomfort
The speaker emphasizes the importance of being able to escape into discomfort and explains that it does not interfere with the ability to eliminate or change the discomfort. They highlight the need for a competent mindfulness coach to support and guide individuals through challenging experiences, transforming them into empowering growth situations. By using mindfulness skills, such as untangling and unblocking sensory components and cultivating equanimity, one can change their relationship with discomfort and find relief, empowerment, and fulfillment.
Unified Mindfulness Approach
The speaker introduces the concept of unified mindfulness, which aims to unify various contemplative practices from different traditions. They discuss the availability of resources and programs, such as the Life Practice Program, Home Practice Program, BrightMind app, and Unified Mindfulness Hub, which provide tools for practicing and teaching mindfulness. The focus is on offering a convenient delivery system for these practices, accessible to people worldwide, with the goal of deepening individual mindfulness experiences and enlightening the world.
In this episode, I am sharing the audio from an interview/discussion I had with Shinzen Young on the topic of "Escaping into Discomfort". This interview was streamed live on November 16th, 2017.