No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

215: Unabridged Interview: Juliet Schor

Jun 27, 2025
In this insightful conversation, Juliet Schor, an economist and sociology professor at Boston College, discusses the consequences of our relentless work culture and proposes a transformative vision with her book, 'Four Days a Week.' She argues that the traditional five-day work week hampers happiness and community connections. Schor critiques free market myths, explores new definitions of the good life, and shares the benefits of a reduced workweek, including enhanced well-being and productivity. Her ideas invite us to rethink work in a way that truly serves our lives.
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INSIGHT

Rise of Work and Spend Cycle

  • Contrary to predictions, US working hours increased since the 1950s instead of decreasing to four-day weeks.
  • A cycle of work and spend emerged where people adjust desires to income, leading to longer work hours without more free time.
INSIGHT

Social Spending Pressures

  • Social pressures shape spending more than marketing alone.
  • People spend to signal social identity and maintain status given widespread income inequality.
ANECDOTE

Big House Contest Example

  • A woman became upset when neighbors built bigger houses, showing how relative status impacts satisfaction.
  • This illustrates how social comparisons fuel desire for more, regardless of absolute needs.
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