In this engaging discussion, psychologist Paul Bloom, author of "The Sweet Spot," dives into the complex relationship between suffering and meaning in life. They explore whether true happiness can exist without pain, and why some people seek out scary movies. Bloom challenges the notion that wealth equals happiness, emphasizing social connections and meaningful experiences instead. He also discusses the transformative power of chosen hardships and how they contribute to personal growth, painting a nuanced picture of fulfillment.
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Twilight Zone and the nature of pleasure
In the Twilight Zone, a gangster finds himself in a paradise with endless pleasure.
He quickly grows bored and asks to go to hell, only to learn he's already there.
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Suffering and Meaning
Humans are not solely driven by pleasure and avoiding pain.
Meaningful pursuits often involve struggle, risk, and even suffering.
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Chosen vs. Unchosen Suffering
We must differentiate between chosen and unchosen suffering.
Unchosen suffering, like illness, is not inherently good; chosen suffering can be part of meaningful pursuits.
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The Pleasures of Suffering and the Search for Meaning
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The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be
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In this ground-breaking book, Katy Milkman reveals a proven path to help readers move from where they are to where they want to be. Drawing on her original research and the work of her world-renowned scientific collaborators, Milkman shares strategic methods for identifying and overcoming common barriers to change, such as impulsivity, procrastination, and forgetfulness. The book offers innovative approaches like 'temptation bundling,' using timely reminders, and creating 'set-it-and-forget-it systems' to make change more achievable. It emphasizes the importance of tailoring solutions to specific roadblocks and using science to stack the deck in favor of successful change.
Sean Illing talks with psychologist Paul Bloom about his new book The Sweet Spot, and whether it's necessary to experience suffering in order to live a fulfilling, meaningful life. They discuss the rich philosophical history of the question: what does it mean to be happy? They also talk about why some people are drawn to scary movies, whether or not to plug in to the Matrix, and why a good paradigm for a well-lived life might be found in the example of... a stand-up comedian.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
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